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Not in London they won't.


Shouldnt be allowed in bus lanes anywhere.

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AL drivers want to use the bus lanes............? Simple! Earn the right by doing the knowledge.


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Any driver working for hire or reward should be allowed to use a bus lane..I cant see why taxis should have some kind of divine right to move their fare paying passengers in a bus lane where as another group of drivers and their fare paying passengers are denied it....why punish the passengers???


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our fare is metered, PH isn't thus traffic has no effect on the overall price.


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bloodnock wrote:
Any driver working for hire or reward should be allowed to use a bus lane..I cant see why taxis should have some kind of divine right to move their fare paying passengers in a bus lane where as another group of drivers and their fare paying passengers are denied it....why punish the passengers???



Thats simple, we invest 3 years of study and commit to a DSA test, wheelchair test, we can speak English, we know where we are going, we have to drive purpose built vehicles that take wheelchairs.

Minicab drivers turn up, sign a form and take to the road in a clapped out Astra.

Thats why we have a right to Bus Lanes over them.

Professional v Amatuer.

Passengers know this and have a choice.


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acabbie wrote:
our fare is metered, PH isn't thus traffic has no effect on the overall price.

Of course it does.

A job taking one hour is going to be more expensive than a job taking 30 minutes. :?

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acabbie wrote:
our fare is metered, PH isn't thus traffic has no effect on the overall price.


Some PH have meters in their vehicles that work in the same way as they do in HC. If a job takes longer due to delays then a charge will be made to take this into account anyway. In my experience the customer will be given the option of paying for the delays or taking another route which may be a little longer but end up being cheaper bacause there are no delays to pay for.

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i can't say for PH outside London; the ones in London are not metered. They have a fixed price structure so that price will already take into consideration traffic, waiting time etc.

In London we as taxi drivers have few benefits over the PH chaps, we can ply for hire, drive in bus lanes and rank up at stations, on ranks etc. It seems that the PH chaps want the same rights as us without doing the hard work............well sorry, i'm afraid it's not on! You want the benefit of driving in bus lanes then do the knowledge; it really is as simple as that. If on the other hand you're too lazy or too damn stupid to do it then be content with what you have as a PH driver and stop pushing for more.

They have to realise that simply having a TfL roundel in their screens doesn't make them professionals. They are amateurs (note the spelling GBC ;)) and not particularly good ones at that! Turn off satnav for a day and see how good they really are! They are pretenders and i have little or no respect for them.


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acabbie wrote:
i can't say for PH outside London; the ones in London are not metered. They have a fixed price structure so that price will already take into consideration traffic, waiting time etc.

In London we as taxi drivers have few benefits over the PH chaps, we can ply for hire, drive in bus lanes and rank up at stations, on ranks etc. It seems that the PH chaps want the same rights as us without doing the hard work............well sorry, i'm afraid it's not on! You want the benefit of driving in bus lanes then do the knowledge; it really is as simple as that. If on the other hand you're too lazy or too damn stupid to do it then be content with what you have as a PH driver and stop pushing for more.

They have to realise that simply having a TfL roundel in their screens doesn't make them professionals. They are amateurs (note the spelling GBC ;)) and not particularly good ones at that! Turn off satnav for a day and see how good they really are! They are pretenders and i have little or no respect for them.


TBH I don't think it should be a case of having an advantage over PH, but, when you put it the way you do I can see why you get cheesed off with the PH wanting the same benefits as HC. Here PH and HC do the same knowlege test and I believe that should be the same throughout the country inc London

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GBC wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Any driver working for hire or reward should be allowed to use a bus lane..I cant see why taxis should have some kind of divine right to move their fare paying passengers in a bus lane where as another group of drivers and their fare paying passengers are denied it....why punish the passengers???



Thats simple, we invest 3 years of study and commit to a DSA test, wheelchair test, we can speak English, we know where we are going, we have to drive purpose built vehicles that take wheelchairs.

Minicab drivers turn up, sign a form and take to the road in a clapped out Astra.

Thats why we have a right to Bus Lanes over them.



Professional v Amatuer.

Passengers know this and have a choice.
:lol:


Makes no Odds to me...I Dont even know of a Bus lane in this area....Skip might though!


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bloodnock wrote:
GBC wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Any driver working for hire or reward should be allowed to use a bus lane..I cant see why taxis should have some kind of divine right to move their fare paying passengers in a bus lane where as another group of drivers and their fare paying passengers are denied it....why punish the passengers???



Thats simple, we invest 3 years of study and commit to a DSA test, wheelchair test, we can speak English, we know where we are going, we have to drive purpose built vehicles that take wheelchairs.

Minicab drivers turn up, sign a form and take to the road in a clapped out Astra.

Thats why we have a right to Bus Lanes over them.



Professional v Amatuer.

Passengers know this and have a choice.
:lol:


Makes no Odds to me...I Dont even know of a Bus lane in this area....Skip might though!


nearest is Edinburgh and very handy it is to :D and I like the idea of taxis being able to go where the public cannot like a few of the left and right turns


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skippy41 wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
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bloodnock wrote:
Any driver working for hire or reward should be allowed to use a bus lane..I cant see why taxis should have some kind of divine right to move their fare paying passengers in a bus lane where as another group of drivers and their fare paying passengers are denied it....why punish the passengers???



Thats simple, we invest 3 years of study and commit to a DSA test, wheelchair test, we can speak English, we know where we are going, we have to drive purpose built vehicles that take wheelchairs.

Minicab drivers turn up, sign a form and take to the road in a clapped out Astra.

Thats why we have a right to Bus Lanes over them.



Professional v Amatuer.

Passengers know this and have a choice.
:lol:


Makes no Odds to me...I Dont even know of a Bus lane in this area....Skip might though!


nearest is Edinburgh and very handy it is to :D and I like the idea of taxis being able to go where the public cannot like a few of the left and right turns


hmmmm...could we be the only Local authority in the UK without bus lanes??


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skippy41 wrote:

nearest is Edinburgh


Is that the ones the Black Cabs think is for them and them only? I drive a Skoda, plate and sign displayed and still I get the dirty looks, the advice to get out the bus lane before I get booked etc. Even when I point out I'm a licenced taxi, I get the same treatment. When the sign says EDINBURGH taxis only, I'll stop using them. Until then, they're there to be used, legally.

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acabbie wrote:
our fare is metered, PH isn't thus traffic has no effect on the overall price.

Of course it does.

A job taking one hour is going to be more expensive than a job taking 30 minutes. :?


er, well, not really, as i price on mileage/hours*/passenger numbers, if i get done quicker or slower the price is the same


* as calculated for the price

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bloodnock wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
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bloodnock wrote:
Any driver working for hire or reward should be allowed to use a bus lane..I cant see why taxis should have some kind of divine right to move their fare paying passengers in a bus lane where as another group of drivers and their fare paying passengers are denied it....why punish the passengers???



Thats simple, we invest 3 years of study and commit to a DSA test, wheelchair test, we can speak English, we know where we are going, we have to drive purpose built vehicles that take wheelchairs.

Minicab drivers turn up, sign a form and take to the road in a clapped out Astra.

Thats why we have a right to Bus Lanes over them.



Professional v Amatuer.

Passengers know this and have a choice.
:lol:


Makes no Odds to me...I Dont even know of a Bus lane in this area....Skip might though!


nearest is Edinburgh and very handy it is to :D and I like the idea of taxis being able to go where the public cannot like a few of the left and right turns


hmmmm...could we be the only Local authority in the UK without bus lanes??


We have two very short bus lanes:

One of them would be very dangerous to use because it cuts across a junction; The buses have enough accidents using it!

The other we have said we would like to use but it's not desperate. If they want us to jump through hoops and respray cars, etc., we'll put up without it. After all, we can still use everybody elses! 8)


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