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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:34 pm 
On Friday night on of our lads had someone do a runner on him in Derby, the fare was £32.00. He phoned the Police up who sent a officer round within 5 minutes, he knocked on the door he got no answer. The officer got on his radio and asked for the big red door key, another officer came and he knocked on the door, he got no answer, he then hit the door with this red battering ram and arresting the chap who did a runner. How different they are from Nottinghamshires police force who don't give a flying F**K about bilking, they tell you to take it up through the civil courts. If every police force was like Derbyshires we'd be happy cabbies. :D :D :D :D :D


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:50 pm 
Brighton police are getting better and have broken into a runners house recently when he didn't open it. My mate couldnt believe it.
Alas it wasnt always that good.
A few years ago a lad had a runner and they did nothing. Tewo weeks later he had a runner out of town in Seaford. Same police force but different police (more rural).
On the night they clouldnt get it out of the filfth and he thought that was that.
But the following day the police rang him up and told him to put the kettle on because they were bringing the money round to him. :D

Now wouldnt it be nice if it always went that way?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:03 am 
Nidge wrote:
On Friday night on of our lads had someone do a runner on him in Derby, the fare was £32.00. He phoned the Police up who sent a officer round within 5 minutes, he knocked on the door he got no answer. The officer got on his radio and asked for the big red door key, another officer came and he knocked on the door, he got no answer, he then hit the door with this red battering ram and arresting the chap who did a runner. How different they are from Nottinghamshires police force who don't give a flying F**K about bilking, they tell you to take it up through the civil courts. If every police force was like Derbyshires we'd be happy cabbies. :D :D :D :D :D


Hey a few years ago I got a Crown court Judge, took him out into the country from York stn, anyway dropped him off at his stone built farmhouse, got his bags out of the cab and he went into the house.

Here's me still sat waiting thinking oh he will be back out to settle the 30 quid bill, 10mins still waiting I had to knock on his door, his wife answered and I told her that the taxi fare hadn't been paid, she said, oh dear, he sometimes forgets, I'll send him out, to which he came out and paid up, no need for the big red key here, but it passed through my mind.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:11 am 
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Location: Plymouth, i think, i'll just check the A to Z!
mate of mine had a runner a while back for a £25 fare. fool did a runner in to his own house within eyesite of the driver. he got no joy when he knocked on the door, so got the police involved. anyway to cut a long story short the runner gets arrested, it goes to court and he gets done under the same laws that apply for shoplifting, my mate gets his £25 plus another £25 compensation! :D


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:36 pm 
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Any chance you guys can send some off your officers to High Wycombe so our cops can learn few things from them


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:29 am 
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Last night, I got to the end of a journey, stated the fare - and the guy said I don't have any money... he had a credit card which declined... he went to the cashpoint which swallowed his card.

Police said because he had tried to pay it was a civil matter, guy agrees to bring money into the office and disapeers never to be seen again...

The address the guy gives seemingly doesnt belong to him!

So if it's not criminal, and you can't guarantee the guy is who he says he is... what then?? Bye bye fare?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:45 am 
nickburrett wrote:
Last night, I got to the end of a journey, stated the fare - and the guy said I don't have any money... he had a credit card which declined... he went to the cashpoint which swallowed his card.

Police said because he had tried to pay it was a civil matter, guy agrees to bring money into the office and disapeers never to be seen again...

The address the guy gives seemingly doesnt belong to him!

So if it's not criminal, and you can't guarantee the guy is who he says he is... what then?? Bye bye fare?


Nick, the police are idle t***s, he didnt try to pay any fare at all, and if he had consulted the theft act he would have seen that it is ilegal to get into a taxi, or order a meal without the resourses to pay.

these woodentops fobbed you off.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:19 am 
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nickburrett wrote:
Last night, I got to the end of a journey, stated the fare - and the guy said I don't have any money... he had a credit card which declined... he went to the cashpoint which swallowed his card.

Police said because he had tried to pay it was a civil matter, guy agrees to bring money into the office and disapeers never to be seen again...

The address the guy gives seemingly doesnt belong to him!

So if it's not criminal, and you can't guarantee the guy is who he says he is... what then?? Bye bye fare?


Yorkie is right, it is a criminal offence to knowingly get into a cab knowing you don't have the means to pay. The same applies to any service that is being offered no matter what it is.

This person had no money, he should have told you he had no money. The police officer was wrong to say he had not committed an offence. He committed an offence by obtaining a pecuniary advantage, which is an offence governed by one of the criminal justice acts and dates back decades. Section 66 of the 1847 act also has a section on non payment but it fails to mention if it's civil or criminal. I suspect it may be criminal even though it gives no level of fines tarrif on the perpetrator.

Best wishes

JD


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