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Smoked Glass
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Mr Doom, You are correct but I was saying what should happen, not what is happing. The councils are frightened of litigation and it’s all the Governments fault.
Would I be correct in saying that because restricting the licenses is not working, you would advocate the restriction of Plates?
This would not work as the ppl we are talking about would simply get a PH license instead.
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I dont see how a standard could be defined as a restriction.

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Mr Doom, You are correct but I was saying what should happen, not what is happing. The councils are frightened of litigation and it’s all the Governments fault.
Would I be correct in saying that because restricting the licenses is not working, you would advocate the restriction of Plates?
This would not work as the ppl we are talking about would simply get a PH license instead.



But thats the reality mate, in theory you are correct, but the theory would never be able to flourish all the time the human greed seed and back slappers had a place in the chain, it's like communism tbh, if that had ever had the chance to work as intended it would be the fair way for all, as you know it only worked that way for the poor ppl, the Captalist commy in effect ruined it because he wanted more all the time, right now the only protection is to hang on to what you already have, better the devil you know.
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I dont see how a standard could be defined as a restriction.

I agree, a standard can be achieved no matter how high it's set. However a restriction can never be surpassed. :sad:

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I dont see how a standard could be defined as a restriction.

I agree, a standard can be achieved no matter how high it's set. However a restriction can never be surpassed. :sad:



Surely if you keep ppl out by standards (not that I'm against this btw, the paying public don't need tripe when they asked for lamb) it does in effect become a restriction, although probably not in the fullest definition of the word, but I think you'll get my meaning.
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The difference is

1 "No licence/plate until you meet our high standards." or

2 "No taxi plate ever. How many licences would you like for yourself and your relatives? BTW you can have a PH tomorrow or drive someone elses cab. Do you understand english or shall I get this translated for you?"

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The difference is

1 "No licence/plate until you meet our high standards." or

2 "No taxi plate ever. How many licences would you like for yourself and your relatives? BTW you can have a PH tomorrow or drive someone elses cab. Do you understand english or shall I get this translated for you?"


It depends on what you mean by high standards, invariably high standards are nothing but bluster from wannaplates. :shock:

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If it became say all HC and there was no PH anymore, before long someone would think, hey I've an idea why don't I get ppl to call me for a lift and the cycle begins again, only one person benefits from de-reg and that's those that own an office because it's a certainty once there's too many cabs they will have to ask for a radio, so in effect you create a cartel by doing this, the only way you can become a HC o/d and be profitable is if you go to a regulated area and stump up for a plate, the dream is no office subs and no shifts, in a de-reg world niether exist.


So there are no independents in unrestricted areas, Doomser?

YES, I'M ONE OF THEM.

Bullocks, I worked the ranks in St Andrews for years before the area was restricted and there were plenty like me.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW THEN.

No cartels either, plenty of new circuits started in those years, some stay, but I can't recall many folding, so unless the laws of economics/competition in your manor are different then I don't recognise the scenario you're painting.

MAYBE SO, BUT WERE DOWN FROM 23 FIRMS TO 2.5 FIRMS NOW.

Oh, and over 100 HC in St Andrews, but zero PH. Has worked well like this for decades as far as I know, and certainly in the last ten years.

SO PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME WHERE 900 PHC'S ARE GOING TO GO IF WE GOT PH SCRUBBED, AND HOW MANY DO YOU THINK WOULD ADD TO THE 238 HC'S WE ALREADY HAVE.

Dundee had zero PH at one point and 800 taxis I think, so one-tier isn't a blueprint, it's the real world.


800 CARS IN ANY CITY OTHER THAN THE LARGEST HAPPENING TYPE CITIES IS A DISASTER
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Oh, and over 100 HC in St Andrews, but zero PH. Has worked well like this for decades as far as I know, and certainly in the last ten years.


Can I just ask what type of vehicles those HC's are?

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I think it would depend on whether that is all the trade ie HC and PH or if it is just HC and then there was also PH. It would be happy days here if there was only 800 vehicles in all :D

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It depends on what you mean by high standards, invariably high standards are nothing but bluster from wannaplates. :shock:

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So you don't rate standards then CC?
Any fecker can drive, so long as the owner is safe and able to collect his rental. :shock:

With you, T and the GMB in our corner, what have any of us to worry about :roll:

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It depends on what you mean by high standards, invariably high standards are nothing but bluster from wannaplates. :shock:

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CC, you're either a wind-up merchant or an extreme lightweight given the likes of that statement.

I was banging the standards drum ever since I've had a plate ten years ago.

And are you seriously saying that drum isn't being banged in unlimited areas or in the PH sector?

Or even by gorraplates in restricted areas?

Maybe you should change your username to Captain C r a p :wink:
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It depends on what you mean by high standards, invariably high standards are nothing but bluster from wannaplates. :shock:

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CC, you're either a wind-up merchant or an extreme lightweight given the likes of that statement.

I was banging the standards drum ever since I've had a plate ten years ago.

And are you seriously saying that drum isn't being banged in unlimited areas or in the PH sector?

Or even by gorraplates in restricted areas?

Maybe you should change your username to Captain C r a p :wink:



If you have a plate why do you stand for dereg? surely that's like Churchill e.mailing Hitler the day before to say he's sending over some Lancaster bombers to flatten some German cities isn't it?
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It depends on what you mean by high standards, invariably high standards are nothing but bluster from wannaplates. :shock:

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CC, you're either a wind-up merchant or an extreme lightweight given the likes of that statement.

I was banging the standards drum ever since I've had a plate ten years ago.

And are you seriously saying that drum isn't being banged in unlimited areas or in the PH sector?

Or even by gorraplates in restricted areas?

Maybe you should change your username to Captain C r a p :wink:



If you have a plate why do you stand for dereg? surely that's like Churchill e.mailing Hitler the day before to say he's sending over some Lancaster bombers to flatten some German cities isn't it?


Actually that is basically what the do nowadays. The send the bombers over and drop leaflet saying we will be back tomorrow with the real thing so get out now.

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Actually that is basically what the do nowadays. The send the bombers over and drop leaflet saying we will be back tomorrow with the real thing so get out now.

And are they environmentally positive people too; do they recycle the leaflets?

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If you have a plate why do you stand for dereg? surely that's like Churchill e.mailing Hitler the day before to say he's sending over some Lancaster bombers to flatten some German cities isn't it?


Are you seriously saying that all people are purely motivated by self-interest?

No whites argued to end slavery or apartheid?

No well off people are willing to pay higher taxes?

No one gives blood?

Everyone parks in the disabled spaces at Tesco's to avoid walking a few yards?

Of course, I could go on all night, but it's stating the obvious, surely?
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