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 Post subject: CRB and ISA
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:33 am 
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CRB/ISA issues
From October next year taxi drivers who work on Council contracts carrying children or vulnerable adults will start to need to be ‘ISA’
registered.
The cost for registration has been announced
as £64 and this includes the cost of a CRB
disclosure (the information from which is
needed by ISA to determine the suitability
of the applicant to become registered). The
County Council will be encouraging licensing
authorities to give applicant taxi drivers the
option of applying for ISA registration at
the same time as their next CRB disclosure
renewal after 12th October next year.





http://www.leicestershire.gov.uk/g0852_ ... gh_res.pdf

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Following the murders of Jessica Chapman and Holly Wells by Ian Huntley (a school caretaker) in 2002



If this was such an important issue why has it taken them 7 years to dream up an ISA...

Its bugger all to do with extra protection for kids as the CRB already does that...at £64 quid a throw it is all to do with this greedy fechin hard up government trying to cream more money off us just to pay for the bloody quango that dreamed up the ISA in the first place.

this country is going to the wall......every day another idiot idea and more unwelcomed and unaffordable government fees to be paid by the working people of Britain, its makes you wonder if the long term dole wallahs are the clever ones and us workers the stupid ones.. :x


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bloodnock wrote:
the long term dole wallahs are the clever ones and us workers the stupid ones.. :x


Most of us have known this for a long time. :wink:

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Following the murders of Jessica Chapman and Holly Wells by Ian Huntley (a school caretaker) in 2002



If this was such an important issue why has it taken them 7 years to dream up an ISA...

Its bugger all to do with extra protection for kids as the CRB already does that...at £64 quid a throw it is all to do with this greedy fechin hard up government trying to cream more money off us just to pay for the bloody quango that dreamed up the ISA in the first place.

this country is going to the wall......every day another idiot idea and more unwelcomed and unaffordable government fees to be paid by the working people of Britain, its makes you wonder if the long term dole wallahs are the clever ones and us workers the stupid ones.. :x


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anyone who cant work because of the new ISA check (dont forget it will draw info from "other" sources, not just the police and courts) could have an excellent case for compo and/or a life on the dole...


i may be the first....

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There is plenty of new guidance and implementation timetables for the new ISA lark on their site.

http://www.isa-gov.org.uk/

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without being too obtuse, does this also cover Scotland?


Same question(worded differently) on Scottish forum. Someone must know. :wink:

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the 2 biggest cases to prompt this was ian Huntley and this latest nursery bunch of kiddy fiddlers, neither case involved taxi drivers or would have been prevented by the ISA thing...

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Bugger me, wheres me pen....



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wannabeeahack wrote:
the 2 biggest cases to prompt this was ian Huntley and this latest nursery bunch of kiddy fiddlers, neither case involved taxi drivers or would have been prevented by the ISA thing...


As the ISA has been in the pipeline for quite a while now I don't think the latest bunch of kiddy fiddlers have had much bearing on the introduction.

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grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
the 2 biggest cases to prompt this was ian Huntley and this latest nursery bunch of kiddy fiddlers, neither case involved taxi drivers or would have been prevented by the ISA thing...


As the ISA has been in the pipeline for quite a while now I don't think the latest bunch of kiddy fiddlers have had much bearing on the introduction.


It's been mentioned on here quite a few times too, and I aint heard anyone from any trade organisation criticise the scheme.

I also think wannabee may have been asleep on here for a considerable period if he thinks taxi and PH drivers are saints.

Worboys, http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... light=rape

Ord, http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... light=rape

Yunis, http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... light=rape

Mehmood, http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... light=rape

khan, http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... light=rape

Islam, http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... light=rape

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wannabeeahack wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
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Following the murders of Jessica Chapman and Holly Wells by Ian Huntley (a school caretaker) in 2002



If this was such an important issue why has it taken them 7 years to dream up an ISA...

Its bugger all to do with extra protection for kids as the CRB already does that...at £64 quid a throw it is all to do with this greedy fechin hard up government trying to cream more money off us just to pay for the bloody quango that dreamed up the ISA in the first place.

this country is going to the wall......every day another idiot idea and more unwelcomed and unaffordable government fees to be paid by the working people of Britain, its makes you wonder if the long term dole wallahs are the clever ones and us workers the stupid ones.. :x


you have a PM


yeah..sadly its fechin Gordon Brown :?


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New vetting rules to protect 'vulnerable groups'
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/DG_181407
Published: Tuesday, 13 October 2009

The new Vetting and Barring Scheme launches today, tightening controls on who can work with children and vulnerable adults. The new scheme was created following the Soham murders and is designed to offer greater protection to children and vulnerable adults without creating too much red tape.

Protecting children and vulnerable adults

Find out more about volunteering

Volunteering Stricter controls will begin to replace existing rules that decide who can’t work with children and vulnerable adults in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Increased safeguards that will be introduced from today include:

widening the range of posts it is a criminal offence for barred people to work in

the three current barring lists will be replaced by two new barred lists - checks of these two lists can be made as part of an Enhanced Criminal Records Bureau check

more jobs and voluntary positions will be covered by the barring rules, including moderators of children’s internet chat rooms

employers, social services and professional regulators must refer information like why they stopped or considered stopping someone from working with vulnerable groups

Sue Berelowitz, deputy children's commissioner for England, said: "Under this new scheme, anybody working with children, whether they are a taxi driver regularly taking a child to school on behalf of the local authority or a volunteer accompanying children on an overnight Cubs or Scouts trip, will be required to undergo vetting to ensure they are suitable to work with children.

"This new system will better protect children and meets the concerns of parents, while not being over-bureaucratic and not limiting opportunities for volunteers to work with children."

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grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
the 2 biggest cases to prompt this was ian Huntley and this latest nursery bunch of kiddy fiddlers, neither case involved taxi drivers or would have been prevented by the ISA thing...


As the ISA has been in the pipeline for quite a while now I don't think the latest bunch of kiddy fiddlers have had much bearing on the introduction.


It's been mentioned on here quite a few times too, and I aint heard anyone from any trade organisation criticise the scheme.

I also think wannabee may have been asleep on here for a considerable period if he thinks taxi and PH drivers are saints.

Worboys, http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... light=rape

Ord, http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... light=rape

Yunis, http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... light=rape

Mehmood, http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... light=rape

khan, http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... light=rape

Islam, http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... light=rape

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Q1. how many NON-HC/PH cases were there in the same period
Q2. how many "she creied rape but lied" were there (as many as 6. like above?)

HMG wont admit it but THIER own offices/depts dont follow guidelines, you have listed 6 cases, how many taxi/PH drivers are there in the UK?

Personally I think drivers are the vulnerable ones, not passengers, i think thats why there are screens in many vehicles and HC/PH can drive without wearing a seatbelt............

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The new Vetting and Barring Scheme launches today, tightening controls on who can work with children and vulnerable adults. The new scheme was created following the Soham murders and is designed to offer greater protection to children and vulnerable adults without creating too much red tape.


Ian Huntley WORKED at a school! - wasnt barred or vetted, and he certainly wasnt a taxi driver or volunteer

So who was to blame?...

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Following the announcement of Huntley's conviction, it emerged that various authorities were aware of allegations, from a number of sources, that he had committed one act of indecent assault, four acts of underage sex and three rapes.

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