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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:42 pm 
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Woman raped after taxi driver forced her out of cab
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... out_of_cab

A WOMAN was raped after a taxi driver made her get out of his car because he believed she could not pay the fare.

The victim had been on a night out in Manchester city centre when she took the taxi to Salford in the early hours of yesterday.

On the way she was asked to get out and made her way to a petrol station believed to be on Cromwell Road, Pendleton.

On the forecourt she was approached by two white men with Eastern European accents. They told her she could go to their flat on nearby Gerald Road in Charlestown.

One of them raped her inside the flat. She managed to leave and was given a lift by a passing motorist to a friend's house, where she called police.

The attacker was around 6ft, stocky and in his mid-30s. He has light brown hair, which is short but receding. He has a square face and spotty skin. He was wearing a white T-shirt and light blue jeans.

Det Sgt Julie Connor, of Salford CID, said: "This woman has been left distraught by what has happened to her.

"I'm appealing to anyone who may have seen these two men in the Cromwell Road area between the times of 2am and 6am.

"You may have thought nothing of it, but it is vital you call us with any information you have as we need to find this offender.

"I'd also appeal to the taxi driver and the driver of the car who gave the victim a lift to her friend's house to contact us."

Anyone with information can call Salford CID on 0161 856 5351 or Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555 111.

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It's a shame that the driver had to put the woman out of the taxi, but, we do not operate a charity service. I personally would have taken the woman in good faith and hoped that either there was money at home or that she would arrange to pay later. It really annoys me when people especially women get into my vehicle with no means to pay for the fare, it leaves me as a driver in a terrible position.

As awful as this is why on earth did she go to the flat of 2 strange men and then get into a strangers car :? It would have been far more sensible to stay at the service station and phone somebody to come collect her.

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Horrible situation, but what else could the driver do?

She would have been asked to get out for a reason.

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Same view as the above, what was the cab driver supposed to do?

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what was the cab driver supposed to do?



Drop her at the police station or a crowed place not in the middle of some dark street, even though she may not have had the money, the driver still had a duty of care


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A WOMAN was raped after a taxi driver made her get out of his car because he believed she could not pay the fare

Thats an odd reason to put some one out..just on the belief that she couldnt pay....did he ask or did he just assume that she had no money?

And how would they know what he believed or otherwise if the police are still trying to trace him??

If she seemed to be trying to jump her fare then he should have unloaded her at a cop shop..I think theres more to this than meets the eye.


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She has a duty of care . . to pay the guy for the ride.

It's always a woman.

Every problem I've ever had whilst driving a Taxi at night, has been caused by a woman, so much so that now if I have the choice on nights of stopping for a single female, or a group of blokes, I'll suffer the noise.

I know I'll get paid, they won't make allegation's against me, they don't do the lost purse routine followed by the predicted hysterics when their story is rumbled, and more often than not, I get a decent tip from a group of guys.

The vulnerable of society or the deceitful? :?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:19 am 
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GBC wrote:
She has a duty of care . . to pay the guy for the ride.

It's always a woman.

Every problem I've ever had whilst driving a Taxi at night, has been caused by a woman, so much so that now if I have the choice on nights of stopping for a single female, or a group of blokes, I'll suffer the noise.

I know I'll get paid, they won't make allegation's against me, they don't do the lost purse routine followed by the predicted hysterics when their story is rumbled, and more often than not, I get a decent tip from a group of guys.

The vulnerable of society or the deceitful? :?


Tell that to the driver in our town who a couple of weeks ago had 4 men do a runner only for one of them to end up running back into the side of the taxi and fall under the wheel and end up with a broken leg. The driver spent 10 1/2 hours in the police station and may be charged.

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skippy41 wrote:
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what was the cab driver supposed to do?



Drop her at the police station or a crowed place not in the middle of some dark street, even though she may not have had the money, the driver still had a duty of care


The driver dropped her off at a petrol station :roll:

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captain cab wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
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what was the cab driver supposed to do?



Drop her at the police station or a crowed place not in the middle of some dark street, even though she may not have had the money, the driver still had a duty of care


The driver dropped her off at a petrol station :roll:

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And obviously not the sharpest knife in the Box to go to a the flat with two complete foreign sounding strangers. Doh!


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grandad wrote:
GBC wrote:
She has a duty of care . . to pay the guy for the ride.

It's always a woman.

Every problem I've ever had whilst driving a Taxi at night, has been caused by a woman, so much so that now if I have the choice on nights of stopping for a single female, or a group of blokes, I'll suffer the noise.

I know I'll get paid, they won't make allegation's against me, they don't do the lost purse routine followed by the predicted hysterics when their story is rumbled, and more often than not, I get a decent tip from a group of guys.

The vulnerable of society or the deceitful? :?


Tell that to the driver in our town who a couple of weeks ago had 4 men do a runner only for one of them to end up running back into the side of the taxi and fall under the wheel and end up with a broken leg. The driver spent 10 1/2 hours in the police station and may be charged.




That’s ok, that's one guy who won't be running off anytime soon from any other Taxis. :D

I'm not saying blokes don't cause problems or run off. But in my experience of working the capital, the only problems I've encountered on nights has been caused by females with no money.

I wonder if they steal from Tesco’s when they go shopping.

Good luck to the driver involved who was probably doing nothing other than trying to earn a living.


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The only thing I find disturbing about this story is the way it's been deliberately written so that most people read it and blame the taxi driver. The logic being that "...well if she hadn't been put out of the cab she wouldn't have been raped..."

If she hadn't been put out of the cab by giving the driver the impression she couldn't pay for the hire then she would never have found herself in the position to go home with two complete strangers. I'm not saying rape is an an acceptable way to behave but personal responsibility goes a long way. You make sure you have enough money to get home and, if there's a problem with that, you don't wander off into the night with two blokes you just met in a petrol station.

I think too many people use emotion when talking about taxi services. Someone already said it; taxis aren't charities. You don't see Tescos giving their food away because people are hungry, nor do Comet give out big-screen tellies just because someone really wants one. If you can't pay for it then you don't get it. Trying to obliquely blame a taxi driver for the decisions of another grown adult is nonsense.


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captain cab wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
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what was the cab driver supposed to do?



Drop her at the police station or a crowed place not in the middle of some dark street, even though she may not have had the money, the driver still had a duty of care


The driver dropped her off at a petrol station :roll:

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On the way she was asked to get out and made her way to a petrol station


Oh silly me she did not :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:27 am 
I think the moral of the story is, if she left the football ground 5 minutes before the end and broke her ankle on a paving slab, and nobody tried to make her stay until the final whistle, it would be their fault she tripped up, anyway in light of this I'm gonna go down the bank and get my mortgage wiped off, if they hadn't been offering mortgages I'd never owe them anything would I, silly blame society Britain again, harsh as it may seem she made her own destiny on this one, I had a similar thing with two 16 yr olds the other week, some brothers invited them to a party, one wanted to go and the other wasn't sure, I gestured to them not to go, and I got a defiant look from both as they went, I can't say what happened, but I suspect some drugs would've been taken and somebody would've been regretting not taking my advice the next day, we can't sit as overseer's all the time, we don't make policy and we didn't cause disfunctional Britain, if she wants to sue someone, let it be #10, all their hard work removing police power has paid off, well for the scum it has anyway.


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skippy41 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
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what was the cab driver supposed to do?



Drop her at the police station or a crowed place not in the middle of some dark street, even though she may not have had the money, the driver still had a duty of care


The driver dropped her off at a petrol station :roll:

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On the way she was asked to get out and made her way to a petrol station


Oh silly me she did not :roll:


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On the forecourt


In the context of the story where would you surmise the forecourt was??

ffs

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