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BNP Humiliated As The Party Is Ordered To Accept Non-white Members

16th October 2009

The British National Party has been branded racist and ordered to accept non-white members in a landmark ruling.

A court said the far-right party broke the Race Relations Act by restricting membership to "indigenous Caucasians". BNP leader Nick Griffin has agreed to try to amend the constitution and not to accept any new members until then.

The humiliating move came after the Equality and Human Rights Commission took court action against the BNP over the way it limited its membership.

The EHRC argued the far-right party broke equality laws barring discrimination on the grounds of race, gender and religious belief.

Mr Griffin has got to convince his deeply racist party to accept the new constitution at an emergency meeting next month. He said there was "no danger" the party would be overrun or have to change its "core values".

The EHRC's John Wadham said: "We are pleased the party has conceded this case. Political parties, like any other organisation, are obliged to respect the law and not discriminate."

Richard Barnbrook, London Assembly BNP member, said: "I believe members will vote yes."

Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, said: "A shiny new constitution does not make a democratic party. It has so much racism and hatred pumping through its veins."

Source; Mirror.co.uk


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BNP Court Ruling Is A Mistake By The Equality Commission

October 16th, 2009

By George Pitcher

George Pitcher is Religion Editor of Telegraph Media. He is an Anglican priest and serves his ministry at St Bride's, Fleet Street, in London – the "journalists' church".


It’s certainly very funny that the BNP has been forced by court order to revise its constitution so that it doesn’t discriminate in its membership on grounds of race, gender or religious belief. Discrimination is what the BNP does. It’s a bit like saying that the Labour Party must admit Old Etonians, or that the Conservatives must have a leader or London mayor who didn’t go to Eton.

I guess the plan might be to flood the BNP with people from ethnic minorities, to neutralise its mission to ethnic-cleanse the UK. Some high-profile figures, such as Lenny Henry and Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, I’m sure would add colour to the BNP’s committees.

But I’m not sure this court triumph by the Equality and Human Rights Commission is a good idea at all. Actually I think it might back-fire. The BNP will still have its racist policies, even with smiling Sikhs, Muslims and Rastafarians in its membership. And Nick Griffin, the BNP’s bovine leader, will be able to point at these members and say that the BNP is clearly now not a racist party and that the presence of members from ethnic minorities validates the BNP as a legitimate political party. The EHRC hasn’t thought this through.

Source; Telegraph.co.uk

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They can always allow membership, but not tell them where the meetings are

Im not sure the first asian BNP member will feel too comfortable when attending his/her first meeting

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Will this mean I'm welcome at the Mosque as well?

Not that I'm a BNP boy quite yet, but whats good for the goose as they say, might help the stigma die, I defy any of you Liberals amongst us to go have a read on their site and find yourself not agreeing with most of it, infact most of what is posted around the net from ppl who've had enough of the way things are is addressed in their manifesto.

And why is it that the BNP is seen in such a dim light, fair enough it had a rep for boot boy skins who'd kick off, yet Al Queda isn't seen anywhere near as bad yet they murder ppl in the name of a God, at least the old style BNP member would go out and have it without guns and explosives and would only ruck with an opposition rather than just indescriminately taking collateral's, samething with the IRA, we'll all be shocked for a day or two and move on, yet the BNP is still seen as a footy crew, why is that.


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Scaremongering rightly or wrongly about the BNP is like telling kids not to do something which we all know they won't take a blind bit of notice. People are starting to fancy some of the BNP's views not because of race but because of immigration. Could we be classed as racist toward white Americans? I would not have thought so but if millions of yanks started coming to Britain to work for £5.58 an hour diluting british industry and keeping everyones wages at the same level constantly then i'm pretty sure they would get the same reaction as what other races cultures or humans whatever we should call them would get. The big brother mentality in this country where now we are all spied on and dictated to is threatened by the likes of the BNP. Dictating to people not to vote for them will make them vote for them. If there was another party with the same national policies as the BNP ( without the obvious racism) then things would change for the better in this country in my opinion. I don't vote and never have cos they're all crap and as bad as each other but if there was a party that wanted to put a stop to immigration rather than the colour of skin then I might think about voting for once.


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Will this mean I'm welcome at the Mosque as well?

I would be surprised if they didn't welcome you, in the same way folks are welcomed to the church.

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Will this mean I'm welcome at the Mosque as well?

I would be surprised if they didn't welcome you, in the same way folks are welcomed to the church.

In that case Mr Sussex prepare to be very surprised indeed!

I work with them ..... we are the infidels, you & me ..... non-believers are not allowed in Mosques ..... unless of course you are a VIP on an official visit.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Doom wrote:
Will this mean I'm welcome at the Mosque as well?

I would be surprised if they didn't welcome you, in the same way folks are welcomed to the church.

In that case Mr Sussex prepare to be very surprised indeed!

I work with them ..... we are the infidels, you & me ..... non-believers are not allowed in Mosques ..... unless of course you are a VIP on an official visit.



Don't even bother BC, Suss knows best, Suss knows there's no problem, Suss views all the Muslims in the same light, they smile they say hello and they must be ok, what he's obviously blind to is the oppression on their own ppl and the FACT the lead boys of it are MAFIA, if you say anything the Suss's of this country will brand you a racist, me myself has been giving it a lot of thought lately, what if I could invent a political party that is like the BNP (shock horror PC alien) but instead of the bit that supposedly says hate blacks I could enlist Asians and everyone else for that matter to stand against the Koran and those that want to introduce stoning laws in this country, or in effect give all the Asians who are dying to burst out to be British a chance to do so, face it Britain was white, if it's to not have hatred it will become half cast eventually, but do our children wish to be oppressed by these pre historic cave dwellers?



And this is a perfect example of a complete novice not knowing anything, he "Sussex" spouts his dereg stuff here because in his area it suits him to benefit from it, now ask him how many Asians he deals with in his RICH suburb of Sussex, does he have a local population of them? no he doesn't, he like all the other ppl who don't live among the problems only sees what he sees, and then tells all those that do have the experience they are wrong, Mark, you gotta move, you live in a closet, I suggest you drive a cab in Bradford or maybe Blackburn, then and only then your blinkers may come off my friend.


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That's why there's all this stuff doing the rounds about the BNP, Labour, Tories and the Lib Dems are running scared of the BNP, they are gaining support at a phenomenal rate of speed and at the cost of Labour, Tories and the Lib Dems. They are saying what people want to hear and that gets
you votes.

As for the Mosques welcoming you, they don't work like that. A Hindu will welcome you into a temple but a Muslim won't welcome you into into a Mosque.


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That's why there's all this stuff doing the rounds about the BNP, Labour, Tories and the Lib Dems are running scared of the BNP, they are gaining support at a phenomenal rate of speed and at the cost of Labour, Tories and the Lib Dems. They are saying what people want to hear and that gets
you votes.

As for the Mosques welcoming you, they don't work like that. A Hindu will welcome you into a temple but a Muslim won't welcome you into into a Mosque.



Hindu's have always been ok in my book, a lot of Muslims are also, but it takes on many forms and this is where it gets confusing, ppl think Muslim is an Asian thing, but there are many Eastern European's who are both white and Muslim, I know of Indian's who again are Muslim but do not do the prayer thing, it has a diversity about it, but I suspect the one form of it that appears to be the cause of all the hassle will eventually make all Muslims hated, which sadly won't be beneficial to anyone in the long run.


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From out of the political Darkness comes musical harmony to soothe the breast of all mankind regardless of creed.. :?


http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/bnp-to-offer-free-didgeridoo-lessons-200910232162/


BNP TO OFFER FREE DIDGERIDOO LESSONS
23-10-09
THE British National Party last night outlined plans for free didgeridoo lessons for Britain's aboriginal population.



Not bad for a 17,000 year-old Party leader Nick Griffin told a Question Time audience that anyone who had lived in Britain for at least 17,000 years would be given vouchers for a 10 week course on how to master the six foot long wooden trumpet.

He said: "To all those who have lived here for less than 17,000 years I would suggest that you go back to your own country and learn to play the Alphorn, the bagpipes or whatever second rate wind instrument is currently flavour of the month with your inferior, coffee-coloured society."

In a performance hailed by critics as a 'tour de force of lunacy', Mr Griffin described Islam as a 'wicked, vicious faith that persecutes women and didgeridoo players' and insisted that Sir Winston Churchill would have joined the BNP if he had been a ****.

He also claimed the Ku Klux Klan was 'almost totally non violent' insisting the thousands of lynchings it carried out across the southern United States were tragic accidents and practical jokes that went wrong at the last minute.

But the BNP leader did finally admit that some Jewish people may not have survived the Second World War and called for a public inquiry to find what happened to them.

As maniacs and the Guardian united to demand the BNP be taken seriously, Welsh secretary Peter Hain said Mr Griffin's apperance was the difference between no-one being a racist lunatic and everyone being a racist lunatic. However early polling results indicate that the number of racist lunatics has remained exactly the same.

Meanwhile leading commentators at the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail insisted the only way to defeat the BNP was to crackdown on immigration in accordance with its key manifesto pledges.

Roy Hobbs, an aborigine from Peterborough, added: "I don't necessarily agree with everything Mr Griffin says, but learning how to play Jerusalem on the didgeridoo is a white man's birthright."


Extract from the Daily mash..


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The islamic doctrine is that only they have the one true god, all others are infidels and beneath them, and they have the god-given (allah-given) right to subdicate all others

I think they should just get over losing against the crusaders and move on....


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What p*ssed me off about the Question Time programme last night, was that it was all about what the BNP or Nick Griffin stood for, said, didn't say etc., etc.

And because of this Question Time completely lost its usual format of a cross-sectional, multi-theme debate & concentrated almost entirely on the BNP & Nick Griffin.

In the end all the programme did was to show everyone watching & listening what we already knew about the BNP & Nick Griffin. What it did not achieve nor come remotely close to achieving was to see what Nick Griffin & / or the BNP thought about a range of issues that are also close to the populations hearts & minds. It was therefore in my mind a non-event, in that all it did was revile the BNP & Nick Griffin instead of debating on a number of topics. Questions on the financial situation, employment, education, public order, etc., etc., as you would expect of Question Time, would have probably given the watching audience a better appraisal of what the BNP & Nick Griffin stood for on a range of issues. After all we already knew what their views were on the obvious questions being asked & his answers were so predictable that in the end the programme became a bore & was the least informative Question Time programme ever.

That was a shame really; because his answers would have been quite fascinating to listen to on a much broader range of issues. Would he have been found wanting on some of these topics? Would he have possibly talked a lot of sense? Or would he have eventually linked every answer to immigration, race, etc. We will never know & the BBC missed a great opportunity to see what the BNP & Nick Griffin really thought about all the other issues of concern to Joe Public. The bottom line as someone has already said this morning is, 'Nick Griffin on Question Time: it never happened. Next time he's on the programme, he might actually be on Question Time'.

I just wonder if the producers & others on the panel were afraid to give Nick Griffin any chance at all to debate ‘rank & file issues’ that affect the ordinary citizens of this country, for fear that he might just make sense & give reasoned replies for the nation to see. I don’t know the bloke except for his & the BNP’s views on the obvious issues. Question Time should have given me & others watching the opportunity to try to understand them a little better. After all they did get almost a million votes in the European elections & I can’t believe we have almost a million nutters in the country. So WHY did those people vote BNP? I didn’t find out much about that after last night’s Question Time, but I should have done!!

Also, the programme was held in London; what might have happened if it had been held in one of the northern cities or towns? A differently biased studio audience? A different set of questions?

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Excellent post, Brummie.

I found the programme hard work. A lot of shouting across each other and very little continuity of debate on many of the the points raised.

Nick Griffin appeared very uncomfortable and shifty, probably with good reason given the antagonism railed against him. Jack Straw was almost as bad and a total waste of space. The two women made some excellent points and were the most competent performers on the night. Chris Huhne wasn't really given an opportunity to get into the debate so can't comment sensibly on his contribution.

Thankfully, I'm in an area where the main issues under 'discussion' are not at the top of the political agenda. So, the fact that I didn't learn much from the programme will not affect my voting intentions but, IMHO, the BBC did a disservice to those whose communities are affected by these issues. Do they support a party based on the single issue without knowing whether that party will make a mess of any other issues that would arise during it's tenure? Not a very balanced show at all.


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I watched the show as well and a number of things have alarmed me today whilst listening to the radio.

Basically the commentators must have been watching a different show to myself.

I additionally find it quite amazing that Griffin's father was in the RAF whilst Jack Straw's was in jail.....Straw seems to have made up for that anomaly by sending thousands of our soldiers and other service personnel to every war possible.

With reference to the homophobic remarks that Griffin allegedly said, I thought he basically said what people do behind their own closed doors is their own business and the state shouldn't be involved.......but he found two people of the same sex kissing in public disgusting?

Also he didn't want children at primary school taught about same s*x relationships.....Or did I imagine that?

I actually wanted to hear his views on Iraq and Afghanistan. I wanted to know his views on MP's fiddling their expenses.

I wanted to hear what he would do with the millions of British people of other religions and skin colour......because they are as British as me.

Instead the show appears to have been a sad excuse to pick on Griffen.

The only person coming out of the show with any credit was Baroness Warsi.

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I saw fear, I saw an Asian who wanted to just discredit NG anyway she could, I saw a black woman who thought she would overtalk anyone trying to answer her, I saw a Liberal who knows a lot of what the BNP wants to do makes sense, and a presenter who started off trying to rile NG to hide the fact he also wanted to agree with him, I saw an audience that had been hand picked to a ratio of 90% over 10%, I saw a man with colour in his skin standing up for the BNP, I saw another man who has been brainwashed that the BNP will deport him even though he's 3rd gen Brit anyway, I saw a token Jewish lad trying his hardest to lay the holocaust thing on even though it'd been covered already and NG family had helped save the very persons aiming at hims family 60 years ago, I saw the whole show tilted towards NG hates blacks when it should've looked at issues that you can find on their website about education,police,chavs,military,employment,pride etc, I saw NG give it back brilliantly without any applause when he mentioned the BNP had no Muslim blood on it's hands yet JS's government had the blood of thousands on theirs, now there's plenty of you who squinny constantly here about how bad things are, yet when someone wants to do something about it you run and hide for fear of being branded a racist, no wonder you don't really care, because true Brit's don't run away, and if it gave me one new fact to relish it was knowing that Jack Straw comes from gutless stock, no wonder Labour has been so weak in Europe all this time if the party is riddled with jellyfish.


And no I'm not a BNP member or voter, nor am I a racist, nor do I want anyone being attacked for the colour of their skin, I just want things right and I want to be consulted and taken notice of, so read before you plead, here's the link, http://bnp.org.uk/ and be sure to read all of it before you simply just comment on the immigrant situation, something that wouldn't be so much of a problem if this and other past Government's hadn't encouraged single 17 year old girls to fall pregnant and then raise a confused kid that doesn't want to work, and thinks it's cool to play ppl up and live off others, 30 years ago they would simply be known as thieves.


Here's one of the topics for you to taste.


Britain suffers from more than 27,000 crimes per day, or more than ten million crimes per year – the direct result of decades of softly-softly politically correct policing and a failed social engineering policy which has put the rights of yobs and criminals above that of victims.

According to the Office for National Statistics’ British Crime Survey of 2008, 22 percent of people in Britain will be the victim of some crime during the course of a single year.

To combat this shocking state of affairs, the British National Party seeks a return to traditional standards of law enforcement, combined with social reform directed at addressing the root causes of criminal behaviour.

To this end, BNP crime and justice policy will:

- Free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket which is stopping them from doing their jobs properly;

- End the liberal fixation with the “rights” of criminals and replace it with concern for the rights of victims – and the right of innocent people not to become victims;

- Re-introduce corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals;

- Restore capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute (such as with DNA or other compelling evidence).

At the same time, the BNP recognises that decades of social welfare dependence – encouraged by disastrous Labour and Tory policies – which is the primary cause of social delinquency, must be brought to an end.

Social reform is therefore also required. Workfare, not welfare, except to the neediest, should be the norm. Only in this way can the cycle of social deprivation, which is the primary cause of indigenous criminality, be broken.

To this end, the BNP will introduce a system of workfare for those in unemployment benefit for more than six months with compulsory work and training in return for decent payment.

The socialist building block housing concrete monstrosities which blight our urban areas and which are the breeding ground for delinquency and crime will be torn down and replaced with decent housing which encourages the stable family unit.

Non-indigenous crime – rapidly becoming a serious problem, as the knife and gun crime epidemic spreading throughout our major cities – will be dealt with in terms of BNP immigration and identity policy.

Overcrowding in prisons will be solved by the deportation of the tens of thousands of foreign criminals to serve their sentences abroad in their home countries. This act alone will free up to 70 percent of jail space in many prisons.

The BNP will also:

- Make prisons more austere and make criminals serve their full sentences. Offenders will be made to understand that they are being punished and not rewarded with a state-subsidised holiday for their crimes;

- Use electronically tagged “chain gangs” to provide labour for projects such as coastal defences;

- Introduce automatic prison sentences for all repeat offenders;

- Put police back on the streets and remove their current political correctness shackles;

- Allow victims of crime full freedom to defend themselves and their property;

- Make joint custody of children the norm in divorce cases;

- Grant anonymity to those accused of crimes until they are convicted;

- Make police concentrate on real criminals and serve the public, not the government’s political aspirations.

The British National Party alone recognises that crime must be tackled on two levels: firstly by effective policing, and secondly by addressing the root social causes of crime, both indigenous and non-indigenous in origin.

Addressing these two issues will solve the crime problem.

The time has come for change.



Ohh, and that lot that barged in uninvited outside, well sleep well in the knowledge your tax feeds then and gives them the time to go object to anything and everything, yep, the Swampies of this country, the ones who turn up at Green meetings in a car that should've been scrapped years ago along with the smog trail coming out of it, get real will you, are you really pleased with the way it is right now, stand up if you want to change things.


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