Alan Fleming saves Birmingham

GBC · **Posted:** Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:23 pm

£36.50?

Wow, never noticed that before, sounds like a real bargain! :lol:

captain cab · **Posted:** Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:30 pm

GBC wrote:

£36.50?

Wow, never noticed that before, sounds like a real bargain! :lol:

It does and you get a FREE T shirt. :wink:

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gusmac · **Posted:** Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:17 pm

captain cab wrote:

GBC wrote:

£36.50?

Wow, never noticed that before, sounds like a real bargain! :lol:

It does and you get a FREE T shirt. :wink:

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captain cab · **Posted:** Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:23 pm

gusmac · **Posted:** Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:25 pm

captain cab wrote:

Sussex · **Posted:** Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:29 pm

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captain cab · **Posted:** Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:03 pm

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Alan Fleming saves Birmingham

Superman saves Metropolis :lol:

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captain cab · **Posted:** Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:14 pm

GBC wrote:

According to one of our less read papers, Alan Fleming (The OAP) former LCDC Chairman, saved the Birmingham lads necks from satellite PH offices and an age limit on their taxis in a presentation to their licensing board.

London saves the day again. :wink:

Sorry to p*ss on Alan Flemings parade but the facts appear to be different.

http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/democracy/Pages/AgendaDetail.aspx?AgendaID%3d49568

Licensing of Private Hire Sub Office Agree recommendations

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captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:20 pm

Now Brummie is back from his foreign trip......I await his response to Alan saving Birmingham with some degree of anticipation.

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captain cab · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:42 pm

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The argument went back and forth and I asked the chairman if I could speak on the issue, and he agreed.

There were some shocked faces on the council and the licensing officers when they heard what I had to say. That was that it is unlawful to place an age limit on a vehicle. A frosty faced lady councillor then spoke up and asked me since when has this been unlawful.

I replied since the House of Lords decided this back in the early eighties.

The judgement was that so long as a vehicle complied with that vehicle’s
construction and use regulations, and was safe and fit for the road, then an age limit could not be enforced. The frosty faced lady councillor then said the following. “That may be so but that only applied to ordinary vehicles, we are discussing hackney carriages.” It was at this point that I dropped the bombshell.

I told them that the case decided on by the Lords was a London taxi.

A vote was taken by the council and the proposal was defeated another
victory for the Taxi Trade.

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5255&highlight=swansea

Held: A policy can be appropriate if each case treated on merits and the policy does not unreasonably fetter the discretion of the Council. Councils can set harsh limits so as to achieve a good standard of service.

As I said.....wool pulled :lol:

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Saltmarket · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:32 pm

captain cab wrote:

GBC wrote:

According to one of our less read papers, Alan Fleming (The OAP) former LCDC Chairman, saved the Birmingham lads necks from satellite PH offices and an age limit on their taxis in a presentation to their licensing board.

London saves the day again. :wink:

Sorry to p*ss on Alan Flemings parade but the facts appear to be different.

http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/democracy/Pages/AgendaDetail.aspx?AgendaID%3d49568

Licensing of Private Hire Sub Office Agree recommendations

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So what's the story then? Did they agree to the PH satellite offices or didn't they?

Link is borked.

GBC · **Posted:** Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:57 pm

GBC wrote:

According to one of our less read papers, Alan Fleming (The OAP) former LCDC Chairman, saved the Birmingham lads necks from satellite PH offices and an age limit on their taxis in a presentation to their licensing board.

London saves the day again. :wink:

Brummie, did you ever uncover the truth about this article?

Brummie Cabbie · **Posted:** Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:22 pm

GBC wrote:

According to one of our less read papers, Alan Fleming (The OAP) former LCDC Chairman, saved the Birmingham lads necks from satellite PH offices and an age limit on their taxis in a presentation to their licensing board.
London saves the day again. :wink:

Brummie, did you ever uncover the truth about this article?

I know about this thread, but need to research some licensing committee minutes of past meeting before I commit myself to 'black & writing'

But from memory . . . the geezer may have attended the first meeting on the satellite PH office at which the proposal was defeated by votes of 2 For, 3 Against, 2 Abstentions. No PH satellite office.

However, the matter of the PH satellite office was then swiftly brought back to a specially convened meeting of the Licensing Committe to revisit this subject. The special meeting was for this item only; no other items were on the agenda.

Apparently, the City Solicitor advised the committee that certain procedures had not been correct & that there was no lawful reason why a satellite PH office within a night club should not be licensed.

At the second meeting the satellite PH ofice was approved by the Licensing Committee. Alan Fleming FAILED to attend the second meeting & I don't know whether he attended the first meeting, but I will ask Ron Pearson about that, who I speak to regularly.

With regard to the age limit on vehicles; this item was approved, but only the first stage was implemented initially until the recession is over.

So to summarise on the age limit policy;

Hackneys will need to be no older than 14 years from 1st April 2010, unless they pass an Exceptional Condition Criteria. The maximum age of Hackneys will eventually drop to 10 years, once the recession is over, but again they can continue to be licensed providing they pass the ECC.

PHVs will have the same conditions except their ages will be 8 years initially, eventually dropping to 6 years.

I believe I posted these details on this Forum at the time of the meetings.

I will check during the week & if I there are any errors in this post I will correct them in a subsequent one, but I'm pretty sure the above is correct.

GBC · **Posted:** Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:42 am

14 years sounds reasonable, 10 is a tad too short for 'out there'.

I would imagine that would create financial problems for some drivers, that said you may well have the choice of cheaper vehicles?

I only asked because generally speaking Mr Fleming is a mine of information, but is prone to selective memory on occasions when it comes to 'county' issues.

Bless him. :wink:

captain cab · **Posted:** Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:10 pm

GBC wrote:

14 years sounds reasonable, 10 is a tad too short for 'out there'.

I would imagine that would create financial problems for some drivers, that said you may well have the choice of cheaper vehicles?

I only asked because generally speaking Mr Fleming is a mine of information, but is prone to selective memory on occasions when it comes to 'county' issues.

Bless him. :wink:

So what about this age court case he mentioned?

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