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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:28 pm 
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Recently Brighton released plates to people on their waiting lists, most I believe were PH drivers, the majority of whom sold their plates without even using them, was that fair, I think not.

Im not sure how many have been sold. But you cant really say to those that recently got them thatb they cant sell. And to everyone else you can.
I got mine for nothing and will keep it long after it loses all it value.
Bloody OFT. :sad:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:58 pm 
Hoy TDO ..... as you think I'm charlie the paperlad, I've registered as such in order to post.

Never mind all this free speech [edited by admin] son, stopping people from posting therefore stifling debate is not allowing free speach, nor is it encouraging debate.

You have the bare faced cheek to accuse me of not allowing opinion proper consideration yet you attempt to stop me from replying to your wholly inaccurate posts, if you want to write an editorial son do it on your homepage, you have said we and us within this thread yet its quite obviously YOU, I couldn't give a monkeys chuff what was discussed or sorted out months ago son cause I wasn't here, maybe you should put a disclaimer up that you ( or we or us) aren't willing to discuss old items with new members/visitors, that way we could leave you and your two pals to it and go find somewhere else to test our own opinions in an attempt to bring changes that are fair to us all and not just a couple of blokes sitting looking for something they can get for free, don't mess on with peoples lives son, you want a bargain go on [edited by admin] Ebay.

Its a good job there is only a couple of you, if there were any more this trade would be completely [edited by admin].


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Charlie the Paperlad wrote:
Hoy TDO ..... as you think I'm charlie the paperlad, I've registered as such in order to post.

Never mind all this free speech [edited by admin] son, stopping people from posting therefore stifling debate is not allowing free speach, nor is it encouraging debate.

I'm surprised you can stand up straight, with that big chip on your shoulder CTP.

I can't understand the bit about you not being able to post, because I've just read one of yours. :?

But at long as you get away from the issues that really count i.e. taxi issues, then you appear quite content. :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:52 am 
I still can't post as I did.

Censorship of opinion is your only counter argument.

Derestriction doesn't work and will not provide extra services, particularly following implimentation of the DDA.

Stop people from posting and this site will go down quicker than a cheap prostitutes pants.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:00 am 
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But at long as you get away from the issues that really count i.e. taxi issues, then you appear quite content. :roll: :roll:


You have no consideration for taxi issues Sussex, only for SUSSEX ISSUES.

You don't consider other people's opinions to be as valid as yours then you call for fairness and a level playing field, a bit of a cheek when its not even offered on here.

Never mind though, with any luck you'll get your plates and all your dreams will come true, I tend to think that never happens but hey what do I know.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:07 am 
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I'm surprised you can stand up straight, with that big chip on your shoulder CTP.


If I have a chip on my shoulder Sussex then it was put there by you.

I can however stand up very straight, I try to consider every eventuality before forming an opinion I understand your desire for a HC plate but don't understand why you have no regard for anyone else when it comes to you getting one.

As I have failed to convince you, you have failed to convince me. You don't want any investigation as to where the real problems within our trade are, you just want to interpret government guidelines to deliver what you want.

I want proper investigation to assess the causes of the problems the public encounter, without knowing exactly what those problems are there is no way those problems can be solved. But your not interested in solving the problems Sussex, your only interested in getting what YOU want.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 am 
Cgull wrote:
I got mine for nothing and will keep it long after it loses all it value.
Bloody OFT. :sad:


Sorry Cgull, you may be able to keep your plate, it may not have any value but are you ready to change your vehicle to a WAV.

Implimentation of the DDA is what is important to the trade mate, not the comments of the OFT or the guidelines from the government about derestriction. Giving everyone a plate then telling them you have to buy a suitable WAV in two years time, isn't removing restrictions, its imposing more.


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Charlie the Paperlad wrote:
I still can't post as I did.

I don't think you have quite realised that now nobody can post as a guest anymore, for the reasons given by Alex in this thread http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=1058 . I very much doubt you had anything to do with the decision. :wink:

I happen to believe it's the right way forward for this site, and really nothing has changed. You can still post your views and you can still stay anon, unless your name really is CTP.

But this way a thread/topic can be followed by all, not just by the various guests posting on it.

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Charlie the Paperlad wrote:
You don't consider other people's opinions to be as valid as yours then you call for fairness and a level playing field, a bit of a cheek when its not even offered on here.

I beg to differ, I may think that some views are flawed, but views of others are as valid as anyone else's.
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Never mind though, with any luck you'll get your plates and all your dreams will come true, I tend to think that never happens but hey what do I know.

Oh I will get my taxi plate from the council FOC, and my dreams may come true. But I wont be able to fulfil the latter, until I gain the former.

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Location: Plymouth, i think, i'll just check the A to Z!
latest newspaper article:

had to look twice when i saw the words 'taxi' and 'survey' in the headline but not what you and i would be thinking:

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=133188&command=displayContent&sourceNode=133171&contentPK=11156134&moduleName=InternalSearch

SURVEY ON TAXIS

STUART ABEL

12:00 - 21 October 2004
Taxi customers in Plymouth are being questioned to find out if they can get a cab when they need one. It is the latest move in a long debate between operators, the politicians and the public about the numbers of vehicles on the road.

The city council licenses taxis but, like nearly half of all councils, restricts the number of hackney carriage licences. Plymouth's limit is 359.

Councils are able to restrict the number of licences if they are satisfied there is no significant unmet demand, but now the Office of Fair Trading is urging the authorities to reconsider the policy.

It says the restrictions 'reduce the availability of taxis, increase waiting times, reduce choice and safety for consumers and restrict those wanting to set up a taxi business."

But Plymouth Sutton's Labour MP Linda Gilroy says she fears a 'free-for-all' with hackney carriages if more are allowed.

Some operators say there are already too many black cabs and minicabs in Plymouth, while others say they are turning away business.

Gary Streeter, Conservative MP for South-West Devon, urged people to take part in the consultation, calling it 'an opportunity for a new season for the trade.'

Questions on the council's form, available online and on paper, include how often people use taxis, on which days and at what times - and how often they can't find one.

Cllr Sue Dann, cabinet member for transport, said: "We want to hear from everyone who regularly or occasionally uses taxis and will be sending out a survey to the trade to hear what it has to say as well."

It is also consulting bodies such as the police, the Community Safety Partnership and disability groups.

The public can fill in a survey online at www.plymouth.gov.uk in the licensing section under Popular Pages, by calling in to the licensing section of First Stop at the Civic Centre or by ringing 307980. The deadline is October 29.


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Charlie the Paperlad wrote:
Hoy TDO ..... as you think I'm charlie the paperlad, I've registered as such in order to post.



Where did you get that from - are you just trying to mislead again?

The moniker is entirely your own.

But I can hazard a guess as to its hidden meaning - does it mean that your strategy (ie avoid the real issues and try to pick holes in the site to discredit it) and arguments (looks like the usual misleading T&G-sourced stuff) are paper-thin?


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Never mind all this free speech s**t son, stopping people from posting therefore stifling debate is not allowing free speach, nor is it encouraging debate.



Listen dad ( :lol: ), you're posting aren't you?

Who is stopping anyone posting?


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Charlie the Paperlad wrote:
You have the bare faced cheek to accuse me of not allowing opinion proper consideration yet you attempt to stop me from replying to your wholly inaccurate posts, if you want to write an editorial son do it on your homepage, you have said we and us within this thread yet its quite obviously YOU, I couldn't give a monkeys chuff what was discussed or sorted out months ago son cause I wasn't here, maybe you should put a disclaimer up that you ( or we or us) aren't willing to discuss old items with new members/visitors, that way we could leave you and your two pals to it and go find somewhere else to test our own opinions in an attempt to bring changes that are fair to us all and not just a couple of blokes sitting looking for something they can get for free, don't mess on with peoples lives son, you want a bargain go on bleep Ebay.



Mmm...'son' again, I think you're getting annoyed and a bit aggressive Charlie.

Who is stopping you posting?- the only change is that you have to register now, which has been on the cards for around 15,000 posts - you seem to be flattering yourself in that you think that the new rules are due to your arrival - not at all - your type have come and gone with amazing regularity on here.

The fact that you're complaining about posting in a post sort of defeats your point, doesn't it - or is everyone missing something apart from you?


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Charlie the Paperlad wrote:
if you want to write an editorial son do it on your homepage, you have said we and us within this thread yet its quite obviously YOU, I couldn't give a monkeys chuff what was discussed or sorted out months ago son cause I wasn't here, maybe you should put a disclaimer up that you ( or we or us) aren't willing to discuss old items with new members/visitors, that way we could leave you and your two pals to it and go find somewhere else to test our own opinions in an attempt to bring changes that are fair to us all and not just a couple of blokes sitting looking for something they can get for free, don't mess on with peoples lives son, you want a bargain go on bleep Ebay.



So you want to decide what we write where on our site now? Bit fascist, innit?

The homepage is now largely static, so any current opininions will be posted on here. As with any other publication, we don't let anyone dictate who posts what or where, that would be a bit silly wouldn't it?

As for discussing old items, we'll take your word for it that you weren't here, but the point is that you used the scenario re the issue of plates in Brighton to make a point, it would therefore be bizarre indeed if we didn't point out that the point has been raised before and addressed. This is not a slur on you, it's just making the point that we have dealt with the point before, which is surely wholly reasonable?

Old items CAN be discussed, but surely no one should take a huff if we point out that the point has been made before?

If you really want something that's fair to ALL, then why your 'do as I say, not as I do' approach to running a vehicle?


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Charlie the Paperlad wrote:
Its a good job there is only a couple of you, if there were any more this trade would be completely bleep.


Good job there's only one of you, but sadly there's actually quite a few of your type in the trade :?


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