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Id never make a rural living if I had to pay £30,000 for a Vehicle,

Which is why, in your manor, it wont happen.

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Of course the other equality issue, that the bill doesn't aim at but maybe will help address, is the thorny question of why one driver should be compelled to pay £30,000 for a new motor, yet another only £10,000?


That is of course the major question.

Running costs alone in a market place where all cabs charge the same would suggest a distinct advantage for one set of traders over another.

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Of course the other equality issue, that the bill doesn't aim at but maybe will help address, is the thorny question of why one driver should be compelled to pay £30,000 for a new motor, yet another only £10,000?


That is of course the major question.

Running costs alone in a market place where all cabs charge the same would suggest a distinct advantage for one set of traders over another.

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Forget suggest, it's been a fact here for many years.
ACC some years ago estimated this advantage at around £2000 per annum. Personally I think their figure is conservative.

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gusmac wrote:

Forget suggest, it's been a fact here for many years.
ACC some years ago estimated this advantage at around £2000 per annum. Personally I think their figure is conservative.


I agree.....even the finance is more than that figure.

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Sussex wrote:
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Id never make a rural living if I had to pay £30,000 for a Vehicle,

Which is why, in your manor, it wont happen.
It must be great being psychic.... exactly how many millions have you won on the lottery.

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bloodnock wrote:
Id never make a rural living if I had to pay £30,000 for a Vehicle,

Which is why, in your manor, it wont happen.
It must be great being psychic.... exactly how many millions have you won on the lottery.



Seems a bit odd though, this bunch of f*nnies push through Bills as easy as a Hot knife through butter and yet nobody..probably even the government itself does'nt know what it will all mean to those very people it will affect...we should be left in no doubt by now just how this bill will affect us or what provisions we should be making, yet here we all are, every single one of us left in the dark..our voices and views unheard... :? ..wheres the equality in that??

I hope the creator of this Bills next Sh*t is a hedgehog... :roll:


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bloodnock wrote:
MR T wrote:
Sussex wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Id never make a rural living if I had to pay £30,000 for a Vehicle,

Which is why, in your manor, it wont happen.
It must be great being psychic.... exactly how many millions have you won on the lottery.



Seems a bit odd though, this bunch of f*nnies push through Bills as easy as a Hot knife through butter and yet nobody..probably even the government itself does'nt know what it will all mean to those very people it will affect...we should be left in no doubt by now just how this bill will affect us or what provisions we should be making, yet here we all are, every single one of us left in the dark..our voices and views unheard... :? ..wheres the equality in that??

I hope the creator of this Bills next Sh*t is a hedgehog... :roll:

I totally agree with you :oops:

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It must be great being psychic.... exactly how many millions have you won on the lottery.

Psychic no, realist yes.

100% PH WAVs will never happen. End off.

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bloodnock wrote:
..wheres the equality in that??


Some are more equal than others :lol:

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gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
..wheres the equality in that??


Some are more equal than others :lol:



True..Usually thats the Politicians and Professional Dole wallahs...they get all and leave the rest of us to pick up the Tab.. :x


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(a) require the driver of a regulated private hire vehicle which is plying for hire,

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http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 0-iiia.htm

I am alarmed by this ammendment today in the Lords. Have a look and see what you think. I believe it may be a back door way to stop the local council's ability to reuse to issue plates if there is no demand. Why else would anybody seek to ammend a 25 year old section in one act of paliament.


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That's a pretty major amendment. :shock:

120A* Insert the following new Clause—
"Control of numbers of licensed taxis; exception
(1) This section applies if—
(a) an application for a licence in respect of a vehicle is made under section 37 of the Town Police Clauses Act 1847,
(b) it is possible for a disabled person—
(i) to get into and out of the vehicle in safety,
(ii) to travel in the vehicle in safety and reasonable comfort, and
(iii) to do the things mentioned in sub-paragraphs (i) and (ii) while in a wheelchair of a size specified in regulations made by the Secretary of State, and
(c) the proportion of taxis licensed in respect of the area to which the licence would (if granted) apply that conform to the requirement in paragraph (b) is less than the proportion that is specified in regulations made by the Secretary of State.
(2) Section 16 of the Transport Act 1985 (which modifies the provisions of the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 about hackney carriages to allow a licence to ply for hire to be refused in order to limit the number of licensed carriages) does not apply in relation to the vehicle; and those provisions of the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 are to have effect subject to this section.
(3) In section 16 of the Transport Act 1985, after "shall" insert "(subject to section (Control of numbers of licensed taxis: exception) of the Equality Act 2010)"."


Of course areas with a 100% WAV fleet will not be effected, so maybe that's the choice taxi proprietors might need to consider. :?

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(1) This section applies if—
(a) an application for a licence in respect of a vehicle is made under section 37 of the Town Police Clauses Act 1847,
(b) it is possible for a disabled person—
(i) to get into and out of the vehicle in safety,
(ii) to travel in the vehicle in safety and reasonable comfort, and
(iii) to do the things mentioned in sub-paragraphs (i) and (ii) while in a wheelchair of a size specified in regulations made by the Secretary of State

This bit will annoy the ambient disabled as most cannot get into a wav
Will wavs have to be made larger to accommodate most wheelchairs


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This bit will annoy the ambient disabled as most cannot get into a wav

If they have a ramp everyone and anything can get in.

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