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 Post subject: Booking office enquiry
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:51 pm 
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In Dundee we have booking offices that have private hire and taxis working out of them.Both use the same number ,does this happen in other areas :?: .When the booking office license comes into force will this cause the offices a problem :?:


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I can think of a large concern in a neighbouring borough that run both HC and PHV. Quite how that affects their operator's licence I haven't investigated.


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we've got 2 big operators in the same situation. 1 of them has various "companies" (basically area specific names/phone numbers, all owned by him) running from the same office. All of which have passed the LA's criteria, AFAIK.

PS see my post below for our LA's latest request for info wrt the BO licence.

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We, along with every other Booking Office, got a letter today.Seems the Planning and Transportation Department have requested the following information in regard to our application.

1/ A detailed block plan that indicates the specific use of the rooms for the business

2/ Any details of external changes to the property

3/ Any history of the business use

4/Full details of hours of business and any vehicular/pedestrian access or parking requirements.

5/ Details of persons employed at the address if any

I'm not sure but I can't remember any of the above being part of the Act.

I'll be contacting our LO tomorrow to see what it's all about. As I can't see the need for most of the above.

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I work for a company that supplies both on the same number and from the same offices. The taxis have to charge the PH rate if it is cheaper than the metered rate and the metered rate if it is less than the PH rate. I do know tho that for the most part the taxis don't have their meter on when they are covering PH work

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:13 pm 
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stationtone wrote:
In Dundee we have booking offices that have private hire and taxis working out of them.Both use the same number ,does this happen in other areas :?: .When the booking office license comes into force will this cause the offices a problem :?:

Very common down here, if not all the time.

Doesn't cause a problem in relation to the booking procedure.

What problems do you anticipate?

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I don,t see any problems, but as you know Dundee council always seem to mess it up.Thanks for the reply.

At the licence meeting on thursday the offices were represented by a solicitor they are not happy with the conditions that the council have attached.Condition 14 really upset some of them

14 .The licence holder shall ensure that only relevant vehicles licensed by the Council operate from the premises.

one office has vehicles that are licenced in a different area, the decision has been deferred till february's meeting.


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toots wrote:
I do know tho that for the most part the taxis don't have their meter on when they are covering PH work


If they are staying within their area, surely they need to have the meter on even for PH jobs because they can't charge more than the metered fare.

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grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
I do know tho that for the most part the taxis don't have their meter on when they are covering PH work


If they are staying within their area, surely they need to have the meter on even for PH jobs because they can't charge more than the metered fare.


I know this, you know this, the LO know this, they know this, but, the customer doesn't :wink:

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All the offices here have PH and Hacks. Two offices charge more on PH than the Hack meter!!!!!!!!!!!!! but the Hacks are often told it is a quoted fare...............so they get the higher rate.

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cabby john wrote:
All the offices here have PH and Hacks. Two offices charge more on PH than the Hack meter!!!!!!!!!!!!! but the Hacks are often told it is a quoted fare...............so they get the higher rate.


Another illegal one!

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stationtone wrote:
Condition 14 really upset some of them

14 .The licence holder shall ensure that only relevant vehicles licensed by the Council operate from the premises.

one office has vehicles that are licenced in a different area, the decision has been deferred till february's meeting.

Welcome to the 'cross-border hiring' nightmare we have all shared down here since 1976. :sad:

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grandad wrote:
cabby john wrote:
All the offices here have PH and Hacks. Two offices charge more on PH than the Hack meter!!!!!!!!!!!!! but the Hacks are often told it is a quoted fare...............so they get the higher rate.


Another illegal one!

Indeed. ](*,)

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stationtone wrote:
I don,t see any problems, but as you know Dundee council always seem to mess it up.Thanks for the reply.

At the licence meeting on thursday the offices were represented by a solicitor they are not happy with the conditions that the council have attached.Condition 14 really upset some of them

14 .The licence holder shall ensure that only relevant vehicles licensed by the Council operate from the premises.

one office has vehicles that are licenced in a different area, the decision has been deferred till february's meeting.


Same thing here. Defered till February
It's condition 4 on our licenses.

4. The Licence Holder shall ensure that only relevant vehicles licensed by the Licensing Authority operate from the relevant premises.

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gusmac wrote:
stationtone wrote:
I don,t see any problems, but as you know Dundee council always seem to mess it up.Thanks for the reply.

At the licence meeting on thursday the offices were represented by a solicitor they are not happy with the conditions that the council have attached.Condition 14 really upset some of them

14 .The licence holder shall ensure that only relevant vehicles licensed by the Council operate from the premises.

one office has vehicles that are licenced in a different area, the decision has been deferred till february's meeting.


Same thing here. Defered till February
It's condition 4 on our licenses.

4. The Licence Holder shall ensure that only relevant vehicles licensed by the Licensing Authority operate from the relevant premises.

The reason is pretty clear, as to why.

Your LOs now have a duty to enforce operators as well as vehicles and drivers.

If the vehicle and driver isn't in your area how does he do it?

Same if the vehicles and drivers are being operated from outside you area. How does the LO enforce the new laws?

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