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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:12 pm 
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But why then should we bother asking for a tariff increase?

If anyone can't earn out of this trade, then they are either useless at the job, or they are being screwed by either owners or operators.

And if that's the case then why should the taxpayer subsidise them? :sad:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:38 pm 
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But why then should we bother asking for a tariff increase?

If anyone can't earn out of this trade, then they are either useless at the job, or they are being screwed by either owners or operators.

And if that's the case then why should the taxpayer subsidise them?


I assume from this comment, you have no kids then?

Or if you do either both you and the missus work, or you consider as the bread winner you earn too much to apply?

If it's the latter, I promise you, you could be very surprised at how high the threshold is, especially if you have more than two kids.

Nobody's income is going up at the same rate as the cost of living, that's the whole point here, it's a general trend, nothing to do with this trade specifically.

Taxi and private hire can earn a good living AND be entitled to Family tax credit, dependent on how many kids they have and how much they earn. That is a fact, and a relevent point. So why should it not discussed?

This was intended to be of help to the poster who asked the question (who I suspect is long gone now) not a vehicle to slag off drivers and operators,
who in your opinion are either no good at their job, or are fleecing drivers
Neither of which is generally the case.

I take it you had a long and stressful day then shall I :wink:

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family credit?

damn i think im a little out of touch here, nobody gives my family credit for anything! hehe goes with being a cab driver i suppose!

more seriously, depends if the guy is a owner or driver.

the revenue will shaft him whatever, but im a little cynical.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:24 am 
sUSSEX.

You display many skills, diplomacy aint one of them.

Too many children, the vast majority of them are brought up in this country, in acute poverty.

There is a principle arising in this country, that is every year, every citizen shall fill in a form, its a tax form.

If you have not enough to live on you will get some money, if you have plenty you pay.

Comming from Sussex I take it you never see poverty, never see acute hardship, its a pity there is lots of it about.

18year old Wayne Rooney, himself a product of poverty god bless him will get more per week, about twice more per week than his loving day has ever earned in a year or frankly is ever likely too.

I does not make his dad either lazy, bad at his job or a failure, infact his dad has been a great success bringing up his family, which has a great footballer and a great boxer.

A deputy Head of a large Junior and Infant school, likewise has enjoyed success, acedemically, and of course in working his way to the top.

if his wife looks after his family, while he works with 3 children dotted through the 5 to 16 band, he will qualify for family credit, even though his take home pay is equivelent to the annual takings, takings that is not profit of a London Taxi Driver,

Sussex do some reasearch insead of acting the t***, and go to the pay page of various professions then the family credit page and try out, you will be amazed I am sure at the total ignorance you have just wantonly displayed.

please lay off slagging off thouse less fortunate than ourselves, had Maggy thatcher not waged such a massive war on the poor and families years ago there would have been more workers today and the pensions situation would not be in such a chrisis.

I will not aggree with you that a family man taxi driver is lazy, unsuccessfull, or a failure for not making enough to cover family expenses.

may god bless your soul and forgive you, for the comments in this regard as I doubt that I will be able too.


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Hello, hello out there !!!!!!

The point isn't the fact that drivers are claiming credit from the government, but the fact that they have to. :shock:

There must be operators and owners [edited by admin] themselves laughing at the fact that they are creaming it off, and it's the mug taxpayer that is having to bail out the drivers.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:19 am 
Sussex wrote:
Hello, hello out there !!!!!!

The point isn't the fact that drivers are claiming credit from the government, but the fact that they have to. :shock:

There must be operators and owners [edited by admin] themselves laughing at the fact that they are creaming it off, and it's the mug taxpayer that is having to bail out the drivers.



SUSSEX WILL YOU USE YOUR BRAIN?

CHANGE OF TONE A BIT, THESE WERE USELESS DRIVERS A BIT BACK!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:12 am 
Sussex wrote:
The point isn't the fact that drivers are claiming credit from the government, but the fact that they have to. :shock:


I think thats a very valid point. strange how the argument against Sussexs' statements come from operators.

Speaks volumes me thinks.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:14 am 
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CHANGE OF TONE A BIT, THESE WERE USELESS DRIVERS A BIT BACK!


But strangely, not useless operators.


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I know about 20 families who are claiming tax credit, and they are fifty fifty drivers and operators.

Yes operators :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Maybe they are the ones who are paying their drivers too much, or they could just be the ones who can not get good drivers and as a result their business is suffering. eusasmiles.zip

Either way it don't matter to me the why's and wherefores, as long as the kids are well provided for and the parents have the opertunity responsibility to work rather than sit on their backsides claiming benefit which will show the kids a certain responsibility.

Incidently Sussex, Just because the families are on tax credit does not mean you as "a tax payer" is subsidising them. :oops:

They pay tax too, look upon it as a tax rebate to them from the revenue that they have paid, maybe then you might just grasp the point eh? :wink:

Take care and also take what you are entiled to by law, not what Sussex thinks you should have :lol: :lol:

This has to be the most read post ever in such a short period, that indicates it affects many more than are letting on eusasmiles.zip

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Skipped through these postings regarding family credit,wish I had this a few,sorry many moons ago.
But agree with the last posting,at least these drivers/operators,are getting off their backsides and trying to work.
I have listened to various talk shows and the family credit comes up,with a few people mentioning that the people receiving them are coining in hundreds a week,whilst earning vast sums of money.
This will always be the case,a few people abusing the system(we all do it,a packet of fags/fish and chips,big tip keep it etc etc.
However,if a cabbie is not the best earner or a driver,if they are entitled to this credit,so be it.
We should be looking at the shirkers,who can,but will not work,and are receiving benefit to which they are not entitled to.
Costing the country millions,while the legit disabled in quite a few cases are on the poverty line.
Also the lack of medical care(special M>S> drugs that cost the earth but local areas cannot afford,lack of specialists physios,it goes on and on).
These leeches that can work but do not,should be ashamed of themselves and should be shopped to the authorities.
Soap Box now put away. :sad:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:42 am 
Charlie the Paperlad wrote:
Sussex wrote:
The point isn't the fact that drivers are claiming credit from the government, but the fact that they have to. :shock:


I think thats a very valid point. strange how the argument against Sussexs' statements come from operators.

Speaks volumes me thinks.



Charlie.
cut the crap, this opperator provides the best continuos service to our area and has the best incomes in the area for drivers

what we can do without is the smart arse comments from minows who couldnt do the job of operator if they tried you number in that clan.

till youve tried it shut your gob.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:48 am 
Charlie the Paperlad wrote:
Yorkie wrote:
CHANGE OF TONE A BIT, THESE WERE USELESS DRIVERS A BIT BACK!


But strangely, not useless operators.


we are in a competetive market and my taxis are free to go elsewhere strangley in 30 years the company has never lost a taxi to competitors.


you and sussex on this issue do not understand the facts

for the reccord not one driver in our company are on the benefits described, however if they were all claiming it would not make one jot to the argument.

that is someone on £20 per hour could claim these benefits if thier circumstances dictated it.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:03 pm 
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Any sour grapes as far as this issue is concerned boils down to the fact that, there are many drivers, who are not wise / knowledgable enough to realise that through legislation they are quite entitled to claim subsidies
(family tax credit), circumstances allowing, to assist in giving their families a better quality of life, if it is there and you qualify what is wrong in claiming. :?:

As a business you may qualify for a grant, you would not turn this away, would you?

So what is the difference?

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like a few have said they might have the lowest fares but i see a lot of there cars ie 04 plate mercs lexuses mmmmmm must be nice may be the tax credits are paying there car payments but who are we to know were just smipel txai dirvres :lol:


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