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Any Kind of restriction, sets one brother against the other. It doesn't matter who is taking up arms against you. This is a brother, against brother. This is how they win. You ultimately lose. I am no socialist, but it is important to know who you are fighting. After we rip each other to pieces, those in control step into the breach, and tell us how things are going to be. We lose again. This means everyone. Expect them.

We, (Taylor and I) take the fight to them because we like to fight. Whereas you lot are just a pathetic bunch of forelock tugging bas*ards. If you ever find a backbone of sorts feel free to give us a call.



You are being played!!!!!

Calm doon and rally roond bro.....
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Bro, I wake up every morning and I know exactly who the enemy is, do you?

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The enemy is within.....

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Correctemundo, but unfortunately the taxi trades master is the Council, and that's exactly the way vested interests want to keep it.
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But your scheme has got merits........it's so bereft of any thinking its positively hilarious.


Are you really this stupid Wayne? :shock:

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How did it go again......taxi drivers will have vehicles.....we dont know what type of vehicle but it will definately be a vehicle.


The type of vehicle is irrelevent. The concept is what matters.
One you seem to have trouble with....it's called equality.
Everyone gets the same choice of vehicle....none of the elete club who can license what they want and everyone else licenses what they are told.
Is this above your level of comprehension?

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We will limit taxi drivers.......we dont know how many drivers there should be and we will take no account of how to assess this, but we want a limit on drivers nevertheless.


I'm sure I said limit by merit, Wayne.
That doesn't mean limit by numbers. It means limit by ability.
i.e. people who know where they are going, can speak English, can count change and have a properly checkable background.
It doesn't mean just any c*nt who can pay the rental.

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The coup de grâce is the actual thinking that all drivers have to have their own vehicles :shock:

CC


Yours is that nobody should have their own vehicle unless they buy a licence from someone else.
Or they should rent from a bunch of leeches who's unearned incomes are protected by council policy.
Stone age thinking at it's best :roll:

BTW As this is the Scottish section, I should point out to you that the sale/transfer of licences is illegal under the CGSA 1982 :shock:

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Well said CC
My point is Jasbar alias Taylor spouts his own illusional pash but when someone with a much higher superior knowledge of the Trade counters his pash he (jasbar) suddenly swerves away from the FACTS, and the Fact is de-restriction or de-regulation does not work in a restricted market
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so DE-restriction doesn't work in a restricted market eh Dougie thanks for letting us in on that big secret we would never have known.
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i always wondered why my jet ski didn't work on the roads now i know! thanks to Dougie's logic lessons :roll:

Pleasure to be of service and eh if that's what you call your cab that's fine by me, i heard what davey called your other effort :lol:

your giving yerself away here dougie or should that be dug ?

i knew there was an auld wuman talking shiite about me down there. :wink:

you been asking about me at the fitba :lol: :lol:

glad i proved you wrong,(turns out im one of the best customers who pays his bills when he picks his cab up)you really showed yourself up with that shiite
that and the indecent the other day were you insinuated that you were going to report me for smoking in the cab.

yer an auld wuman dug a devious pathetic one at that :lol: :lol:


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Well said CC
My point is Jasbar alias Taylor spouts his own illusional pash but when someone with a much higher superior knowledge of the Trade counters his pash he (jasbar) suddenly swerves away from the FACTS, and the Fact is de-restriction or de-regulation does not work in a restricted market
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
so DE-restriction doesn't work in a restricted market eh Dougie thanks for letting us in on that big secret we would never have known.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
i always wondered why my jet ski didn't work on the roads now i know! thanks to Dougie's logic lessons :roll:

Pleasure to be of service and eh if that's what you call your cab that's fine by me, i heard what davey called your other effort :lol:

your giving yerself away here dougie or should that be dug ?

i knew there was an auld wuman talking shiite about me down there. :wink:

you been asking about me at the fitba :lol: :lol:

glad i proved you wrong,(turns out im one of the best customers who pays his bills when he picks his cab up)you really showd yerself up with that shiite
that and the indecent the other day were you insinuated that you were going to report me for smoking in the cab.

yer an auld wuman dug a devious pathetic one at that :lol: :lol:


Ali, you give dug, too much credit :D

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Listen GUSMAC if cheap unintellectual shots is your game your not in the debate, this one is too intellectual for you :D


Reggie, you are the lightweight here. Put the toys back in your pram if you want a proper debate. If not, you and the others can keep making homosexual inferences about anyone who's opinion you don't agree with :wink:

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The public through survey's of demand will let us know when we need to increase the number of licences, not some anarchist like you or Jasbar.
If the public don't take an interest in Taxi politics it generally means they are HAPPY with the service. To say we don't care is a RIDICULOUS statement, when a punter leaves my cab after tipping me extra or not mentioning any problems they have with the Taxi service, that shows me that the punter must have appreciated my service.


The public have little interest in politics of any kind, least of all taxi politics. They want to go home and as quickly as possible.
If the public were happy with the service they were receiving, why are there so many PH cars in Edinburgh nowadays?
Because there is no demand for them? Get real.

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There has been plenty of times throughout the taxi trade where punters complain about the lack of Taxi's, this is dealt with, if there is a complaint to be made the punters will let us know, the punter puts the food on my Table who puts yours on your table? you probably own a radio circuit!


The punters are letting you know. They are voting with their feet.
You have not been listening.

BTW I don't own a radio circuit. Just me and my cab.


Ecph are stacking the plates up!!! They are trying to flood the market :shock: during the week it's said 80% of their phc fleet are not working at night, whilst mon-fri i'm making the same money i've been making for the last 5 years, maybe an extra hour but still the same money.

If you think de-restriction coupled with a limit put on the number of taxi drivers then you too are living in the dark ages.

In Edinburgh there is a need for restriction it's as simple as that, there is now 1,300 hack plates, the Taxi trade is a trade that needs regulation to maintain standards, regulation stops the likes of ECPH becoming a Taxi company, Taxi's should be run by the individuals and as far as operating a plate or wanting a plate, when someone has wanted a plate in Edinburgh there has alway's been one available for sale so no one is being denied anything and like my previous post it cost's in the short term but really no cost in the long term, the investment is the sign of commitment, a fair system which works well in Edinburgh and has done so for decades.


Wake up. Only one thing has led to the rise of PH in Edinburgh.
The same rise in PH that happens wherever taxi numbers are artificially held back.
They are part of the equation, whether you like it or not.
They can't be limited so they take up the demand that limited taxis can't.
Now they are undercutting your rates and taking more of your customers.

An extra hour for the same money now. How many extra hours next year?

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thats just it i don't give him any :wink:

and i doubt anyone else does either

its just dug that hasn't realized it yet :roll:


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First of all I am aware we are in the Scottish section, but this isnt actually about the sale of licenses. In fact I didnt see me mention the word sale once, but I'll check.........nope I didnt.

No I'm not stupid, but I think you are.

you stated;

One standard for all taxis.
One taxi per badgeholder no badge - no cab licence.


You mention concept now, but from reading your post you have little idea of what you actually want. Everyone gets the same choice of vehicle.......you dont seem to know which vehicle, or is that beyond your comprehension too?

One badge one license, I asked what about the guy who prefers to rent, what about the person who can't get finance......you didnt answer, do these people not exist in your burg, or should we just cull those who dont wish to pay?

Any 'c*nt' who can pay rental shouldnt be licensed in this or under any system, but you said;

That doesn't mean limit by numbers. It means limit by ability.

You want a limit then.....but by ability, thats a fairly wide word 'ability'......but lets concentrate on how you achieve a limit......if I can jump through all your hoops and not get finance, I cant drive a taxi? Is that it?

Seems to me the people who dont want restrictions on proprieotrs licenses, want other restrictions, restrictions on the ability to pay, you want people in debt to finance companies, perhaps restrictions on vehicle age to stem the flow of your approved ones with ability.

On the other hand, as this thread was originally about Edinburgh, is it being suggested that edinburgh drivers have a tranche of drivers who dont meet the criteria being licensed? Because according to your mindset, that seems to be the case.

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First of all I am aware we are in the Scottish section, but this isnt actually about the sale of licenses. In fact I didnt see me mention the word sale once, but I'll check.........nope I didnt.

No I'm not stupid, but I think you are.

you stated;

One standard for all taxis.
One taxi per badgeholder no badge - no cab licence.


You mention concept now, but from reading your post you have little idea of what you actually want. Everyone gets the same choice of vehicle.......you dont seem to know which vehicle, or is that beyond your comprehension too?

One badge one license, I asked what about the guy who prefers to rent, what about the person who can't get finance......you didnt answer, do these people not exist in your burg, or should we just cull those who dont wish to pay?

Any 'c*nt' who can pay rental shouldnt be licensed in this or under any system, but you said;

That doesn't mean limit by numbers. It means limit by ability.

You want a limit then.....but by ability, thats a fairly wide word 'ability'......but lets concentrate on how you achieve a limit......if I can jump through all your hoops and not get finance, I cant drive a taxi? Is that it?

Seems to me the people who dont want restrictions on proprieotrs licenses, want other restrictions, restrictions on the ability to pay, you want people in debt to finance companies, perhaps restrictions on vehicle age to stem the flow of your approved ones with ability.

On the other hand, as this thread was originally about Edinburgh, is it being suggested that edinburgh drivers have a tranche of drivers who dont meet the criteria being licensed? Because according to your mindset, that seems to be the case.

CC


If you've passed "the knowledge" you, have the right to own or drive.


Now what's the problem with that CC?

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the answers simple "equality"

some are scared of that the funny thing is a vehicle license holder is about twenty paces away from the first rung of the ladder and yet they still are willing to try and trip up there brothers so that they can be perceived as being ahead.

the most extra actual profit you can make from owning a plate apart from your own earnings is around £300 at best.
these numpties are [edited by admin] on there own for the sake a few measly quid


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the answers simple "equality"

some are scared of that the funny thing is a vehicle license holder is about twenty paces away from the first rung of the ladder and yet they still are willing to try and trip up there brothers so that they can be perceived as being ahead.

the most extra actual profit you can make from owning a plate apart from your own earnings is around £300 at best.
these numpties are [edited by admin] on there own for the sake a few measly quid


Do you think they actually know they are scum? :shock:

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of course they do

you can see its tearing them up inside

all that anger for merely showing them a mirror :lol:


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[quote="ALI T"]of course they do

you can see its tearing them up inside

all that anger for merely showing them a mirror :lol:[/quote]

All this from someone who has used all the means at his disposal to get plates solely for the purpose of selling them on, to the poor "enslaved" taxi driver who only wants "unfettered access to the tools of his trade". If you want a plate see Ali, He'll sort you out and line his pockets at the same time.

What a hypocrite.


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First of all I am aware we are in the Scottish section, but this isnt actually about the sale of licenses. In fact I didnt see me mention the word sale once, but I'll check.........nope I didnt.

You don't have to.
It's part and parcel with your restricted numbers views.
The law of the land here says anyone can hold a vehicle licence - same as your law down south.
Restricted numbers makes the plate a valuable and tradable asset.
I don't hear you having any objections to that.
In fact I see very few objections from you except to change.


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you stated;

One standard for all taxis.
One taxi per badgeholder no badge - no cab licence.


You mention concept now, but from reading your post you have little idea of what you actually want. Everyone gets the same choice of vehicle.......you dont seem to know which vehicle, or is that beyond your comprehension too?


Vehicle choice as you could well work out for yourself would be for each LA to decide.
What that consists of is irrelevant, provided the same choice is available to all.
Have you got it now or should I use smaller words?

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One badge one license, I asked what about the guy who prefers to rent, what about the person who can't get finance......you didnt answer, do these people not exist in your burg, or should we just cull those who dont wish to pay?

You could at least call for a system which makes renting optional, not compulsory for anyone who can't buy a plate or doesn't want the commitment..

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Any 'c*nt' who can pay rental shouldnt be licensed in this or under any system, but you said;

That doesn't mean limit by numbers. It means limit by ability.

You want a limit then.....but by ability, thats a fairly wide word 'ability'......but lets concentrate on how you achieve a limit......if I can jump through all your hoops and not get finance, I cant drive a taxi? Is that it?

Seems to me the people who dont want restrictions on proprieotrs licenses, want other restrictions, restrictions on the ability to pay, you want people in debt to finance companies, perhaps restrictions on vehicle age to stem the flow of your approved ones with ability.


So anyone can make money at the expense of drivers and that's ok with you?
Drivers who want to invest in their future and want to own their own cab should just cough up thousands for a council licence from someone who holds one?
Just how do you suppose that drivers find the money to buy a £50k plate?
Most take out loans on the equity of their homes.
So just who is it that wants to put people in debt CC?


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No I'm not stupid, but I think you are.


I think you believe we are all stupid.

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I think you were the one who stated one badge one plate gusmac, without actually thinking it through, presumably because that suits you.

I didn't mention plate values, you did, that's a big hangup you seem to have, you wanna tell us about it?

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