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Don't you mean slitty?
Should send the Duke of Edinburgh to oversee it..... :mrgreen:


I think you'll find me and skip prefer our cars made in factories which kept the **** war machine going, one good thing about the nazis.....they couldnt half make cars :roll:

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captain cab wrote:
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Don't you mean slitty?
Should send the Duke of Edinburgh to oversee it..... :mrgreen:


I think you'll find me and skip prefer our cars made in factories which kept the **** war machine going, one good thing about the nazis.....they couldnt half make cars :roll:

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Ja meine furer :lol: :lol:

You mean Fűhrer.

Your one makes warm jackets, coats, etc.

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AND THIS MORNING WE HAVE . . . .

Geely May Take Control of London Black-Cab Maker Manganese

March 18, 2010, 12:54 AM EDT

March 18 (Bloomberg) -- Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co., the Chinese carmaker seeking to buy Ford Motor Co.’s Volvo Cars, may take full control of Manganese Bronze Holdings Plc, maker of the iconic London black cab, the U.K.-based company said.

Geely’s Hong Kong-listed unit may raise its stake in the company to 51 percent from 19.9 percent by buying new shares at 70 pence apiece, Mark Fryer, Manganese’s finance director, said in an interview. The Coventry, England-based automaker, which would raise about 14 million pounds ($21.5 million) from the share sale, will spearhead Geely’s plans to sell its own saloon cars in Europe, he said.

“Our future will be both as a manufacturer of black cabs in Coventry, although more of the parts will be coming from China, and an assembler and distributor for Geely vehicles,” Fryer said yesterday.

Zhang Xiaodong, a Hangzhou, China-based spokesman for Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, referred questions to the Hong Kong-listed unit, Geely Automobile Holdings Ltd. Lawrence Ang, an executive director at the unit, didn’t immediately answer calls to his office and mobile phones. His assistant, Daniel Dai, declined to comment.

Manganese’s LTI Vehicles unit and its predecessor companies have made cabs for the London market since 1948, according to LTI’s Web site. Geely in early 2009 began manufacturing black cabs in Shanghai for the Asian market, as well as parts for the U.K. company’s Coventry plant, under a joint-venture agreement.

Chinese Expansion

Geely Automobile Holdings rose 3.7 percent to HK$4.17 as of 12:16 p.m. in Hong Kong trading. The shares have declined 1.7 percent this year.

“It is a reasonable move, but whether Geely can gain from the deal will depend on the sales volume,” said Ricon Xia, an analyst at Daiwa Institute of Research in Hong Kong. “Geely has enough funds for the purchase, and by taking over a majority of shares, Geely will have more decision-making power.”

In a statement yesterday, Manganese said parts for its TX4 vehicles will be made in Shanghai, in a move that would eliminate about 60 jobs at its Coventry plant.

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao is encouraging companies in the world’s third-largest economy to acquire technology and take on foreign rivals. Geely unveiled the Emgrand, its first homegrown model specifically designed for Western markets, in December and is seeking to use Manganese as its European distributor.

Rover, Hummer

Shanghai-based SAIC Motor Corp. paid $116 million for the design rights to MG Rover Group Ltd.’s Rover 25 and 75 cars in 2005 and became the owner of MG’s plant in Birmingham, England, after a 2007 merger with Nanjing Automobile Group Corp.

Some previous attempts by Chinese automakers to expand overseas failed. Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. said last month its purchase of General Motors Co.’ Hummer brand was blocked by Chinese regulators as the gasoline-guzzling vehicles didn’t fit the government’s energy efficiency policy.

Geely and Manganese need to agree on a range of commercial issues, including warranty policies and translation of handbooks, before the deal can go ahead, Fryer said.

“If you look back, you would have thought it was a stretch that British people would take to Japanese or South Korean cars,” Fryer said. “But Hyundai and Kia sold about 30,000 vehicles each in the U.K. last year and we sold 1,724. So it’s not going to take much to significantly increase the size and scale of our business.”

Manganese yesterday reported a 6.9 million-pound 2009 loss. The shares fell 1.2 percent to 84.5 pence in London trading, valuing Manganese at 25.8 million pounds.

Biggest Shareholder

Geely became Manganese’s biggest shareholder in 2007 after taking a 23 percent stake as part of a 53 million-pound venture agreement. That holding was diluted to 19.9 percent after a share placement in June.

Making components in Shanghai for shipment to Coventry has led to cost savings of 1,200 pounds per vehicle so far, with a further 800 pounds expected within six months.

“Unfortunately, we have had to make redundancies in Coventry, but we are losing money and we can’t keep relying on shareholders to keep funding the business,” Fryer said.

China is aiming for 10 percent, or an $85 billion share, of the world’s vehicle and auto-parts sales by 2015, the nation’s commerce ministry said in November.

-- Nerys Avery in London, with assistance from Tian Ying in Beijing. Editors: Kenneth Wong, Terje Langeland, Chana Schoenberger

To contact the reporter responsible for this story: Nerys Avery at Navery2@bloomberg.net

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Victoria Richards at vrichards@bloomberg.net; Kae Inoue at kinoue@bloomberg.net

Source; BusinessWeek.com

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MORE CONFIRMATION

HK shares may ease from 8-mth high; China Mobile eyed

Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:26pm (Reuters)

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* China's Geely Group (0175.HK) is set to raise its grip on lossmaking London black cab taxi maker Maganese Bronze (MNGS.L) by taking a controlling stake and moving more of the production of the TX4 cab to China.

Source; http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE62H00Y20100318

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It looks like the very end for Coventry now!!

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Well that's the TX well and truly fecked, it will now be like one of there toys work for a min and then into the bin :lol: :lol:


many of the models I collect as part of my hobby are produced in china the quality far surpasses anything that can be produced in Europe ! and at an affordable price


The issue is usually more of production schedules especially around chinese new year when the workforce dissapears and doesn't always come back leaving many factories short of skilled staff !


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I think a year from now (certainly not more than a few years from now) Coventry's black cab manufacturing will be a memory.


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It seems to me that LTI had an absolute monoploy yet still managed to cock up big time by producing stuff that wasn't any good.Other makers then provided alternatives that were better and/or cheaper and now it seeks salvation from China.
Some Chinese made products are good and some are absolute rubbish.I've lost count of the number of tools I've sent back to their distributors because of lousy quality,sadly though,trying to source any made in this country is a waste of time as we don't really have a manufacturing base any more.

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captain cab wrote:
towag wrote:

Don't you mean slitty?
Should send the Duke of Edinburgh to oversee it..... :mrgreen:


I think you'll find me and skip prefer our cars made in factories which kept the **** war machine going, one good thing about the nazis.....they couldnt half make cars :roll:

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I wish I had the choice!! :roll: :x


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towag wrote:
captain cab wrote:
towag wrote:

Don't you mean slitty?
Should send the Duke of Edinburgh to oversee it..... :mrgreen:


I think you'll find me and skip prefer our cars made in factories which kept the **** war machine going, one good thing about the nazis.....they couldnt half make cars :roll:

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I wish I had the choice!! :roll: :x


Send a copy of the revised best practice guidance to all your councilor,s and demand that they licence saloons as well


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Send a copy of the revised best practice guidance to all your councilor,s and demand that they licence saloons as well


What will that prove Skippy......where in the guidance does it say this?

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Send a copy of the revised best practice guidance to all your councilor,s and demand that they licence saloons as well


What will that prove Skippy......where in the guidance does it say this?

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Under licence as many types of vehicle


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Send a copy of the revised best practice guidance to all your councilor,s and demand that they licence saloons as well


What will that prove Skippy......where in the guidance does it say this?

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Under licence as many types of vehicle


I think they mean WAV types of vehicle.....but that aside, which section?

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Send a copy of the revised best practice guidance to all your councilor,s and demand that they licence saloons as well


What will that prove Skippy......where in the guidance does it say this?

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Under licence as many types of vehicle


I think they mean WAV types of vehicle.....but that aside, which section?

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I wonder if this could have a knock on afect to the trade, with regards replacement part supplies for servicing,and repairs


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