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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:10 am 
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[quote="Jasbar"][quote="Frank Lay"]jimmy boy,

I'm sure Mr McLeod has his litter bin ready.

All Edinburgh taxi companies use the airport, not just two.

If a rise does not benefit you personally then it must be no good, just because no radio company will touch you.

And dont give me the "I wouldn't want to join a radio company " crap because we don't believe it.[/quote]

Your problem Frank is that you can't understand anyone who isn't as thick and servile as you.

Now get this into your thick head.

I would never work for any taxi comnpany where I am the customer, where I pay it, and it tells me what to do.

I will never touch my forelock to a kangaroo court consisting of numpties who are worth less than the shecht on my shoe.

I will never join a culture where status is gained by cliping on fellow drivers for minor infractions of ridiculous, childish and petty rules.

I would never work for a company where control of the collective is held by a few inadequate amateur inferiors, aided and abetted by a bewildered herd of sheeple who, by doing doing nothing to hold them to account, behave in precisely the manner I refuse to.

Now do you get this Frank? That you are prepared to operate like this renders you incredibly servile and stupid. Which is fine or you. But not for me.

:lol:[/quote]





Oh jimmy boy,

Don't you get it ,

You don't have the choice.


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Have you ever thought about not kissing ar*e Frank? :?

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Frank Lay wrote:
jimmy boy,

I'm sure Mr McLeod has his litter bin ready.

All Edinburgh taxi companies use the airport, not just two.

If a rise does not benefit you personally then it must be no good, just because no radio company will touch you.

And dont give me the "I wouldn't want to join a radio company " crap because we don't believe it.


Aye, right Frank.

Now let's see what actually happened today.

The council delivered? Nada. Nothing. Zilch. Zero.

No change Frank, and a review in 6 months.

No 30p or 10p. No change for the the airport.

The council sent your reps away with a flea in their ear.

They have delivered NOTHING. What price them surviving re-election?

BTW Word on the grapevine is that Taylor has the ear of the council :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW I do believe that this piece of common sense from the council may just have saved our reps from destroying our trade completely.

:roll:

Read it and weep stupido Frank :lol:

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Frank, I thought an increase in tariff is supposed to equate to an increase in earnings? Had the rise gone through, we would have ended up worse off as a result. With only an increase on the hire charge, and no increase in yardage, the ever rising fuel costs would have nullified any potential earnings. You've got to cover the increased cost of doing the job just to make the Hire Charge work to your benefit. And that's supposing your customers remain using your services. The bad press would have killed us.

Oh and the PH, would have had a field day with our tariff increase. They are fighting us on price by reducing their tariff while we want to increase our tariff. What the feck are you guys thinking?

We've had a lucky escape, no doubt about it.




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traiff


Whats a traiff?

CC


traiff (n) misnomer; deliberate mispelling usually used to encourage complete feckwits to display their stupidity and dependence on the banale to all and sundry; adiversionary opportunity used by complete feckwits to avoid an issue by descending into childhood meanderings

There you go CC. Once again you show us all that you are an imbecile.

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So much for the quality of he NTA, eh?

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Love it!!!

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Whats a traiff?

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It's a mis-spelling of traife!!!

TRAIFE; Foods that do not conform to Jewish dietary laws; the opposite of kosher.

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Oh jimmy boy,

Rest easy, I will not starve without that extra 10p.
Whatever was decided, you would not have been happy would you.

Gary,

I can't make out by your posts whether you wanted a rise or not,
was it a case of you being vague, so that you could have a moan either way !


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Frank Lay wrote:
Oh jimmy boy,

Rest easy, I will not starve without that extra 10p.
Whatever was decided, you would not have been happy would you.

Gary,

I can't make out by your posts whether you wanted a rise or not,
was it a case of you being vague, so that you could have a moan either way !


I can see why we need a rise, but your “representatives” are going about it in completely the wrong way. I don't think they have a feking clue what they are doing. If asking for an increase in tariff makes sense, but the way you go about getting it defeats your purpose. What's the point, of asking for an increase in the first place?


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we discussed a tariff increase again at Thursday's forum meeting. A few suggestions were put forward, but most were rejected due to the fact the proposer couldn't "justify" the reasons for his proposal. If the reps at Edinburgh had the backing of the trade, and could present a reasonable argument for an increase, why would the council refuse to consider it? Having said that, and having read the threads dedicated to the proposals, I don't think I'd expect them to, either.

Could it be the proposals were designed to be rejected? That way they can say (to those that asked for an increase) they tried and it's the councils fault there's not going to be one, and at the same time those who didn't want any change get their wish too? Winners all round?

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Why don't you look at some facts before you go making some of these rash statements.

Here's some facts to help you.

Only seven out of the three hundred and eighty areas in the April league table have a tariff one flag of £1.60.

Only three have a flag below that, two @ £1.50 and one @ £1.40.

The Scottish average is £2.42 for tariff one and £3.09 for tariff two.

The Lothians West, East and Mid have tariff one flags of £2.20,£2.50 and £2.20 respectively.

Edinburgh is ranked 245th out of 380

London is 5th out of 380

Cardiff is 153rd out of 380

You're having a laugh surely! :-s


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Edinburgh Metaphysician wrote:
Why don't you look at some facts before you go making some of these rash statements.

Here's some facts to help you.

You're having a laugh surely! :-s


who is in need of enlightenment, oh wise one?

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grumpy wrote:

who is in need of enlightenment, oh wise one?


Anyone who puts any faith in the league table of fares is obviously deluded.

The fares in Skippys rural area are very different to mine, places with short hires need different prices to rural areas where hires are longer......suchlike with waiting time.

People seem to grab onto the league table like its the holy grail.....in actual fact, its pap.

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Well in that case are you suggesting that the quoted flag falls are wrong?

Why not look at the two comparisons then CC and see if they are wrong in any sort of way.

Unless you are trying to be purposefully obstreperous there is no doubt in my mind that the league table gives an accurate figure for each area.

I take your point about the methodology used in different areas and it's each to their own as far as I'm concerned to reflect local conditions and usage patterns but the constant assertion that Edinburgh has extraordinarily high fares is wrong and very damaging.

Is there that much difference really, if you look at the averages for the whole country they are quite similar.

I'm certainly not deluded in anyway about this issue just tired of everyone bad mouthing it although I realise it may lead to a sudden upturn in fidgeting passengers with a bad case of Mydriasis, a mobile phone clamped to their ear and an unwillingness to pay I'll continue until they desist from constantly deriding our industry.

I'm of the opinion that the tariff one flag in Edinburgh is too low £1.60, a bus fare is £1.20 so in my humble opinion the fares just ain't fair, reading some of this you would assume the taxi fares in Edinburgh were usurious, they're not.

I'll maybe do a tour next week, Borders and Carlisle just to see if the league table is pap. :wink:


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You mention a few things EM and tbh I ain't changed my mind.

The fares reflect local conditions, London and Cardiff are vastly different, In London its quick fares, quick waiting time which charges waiting while on the running mile ( from memory ) .

I'll answer more fully when not on my iPhone.

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Edinburgh Metaphysician wrote:
Why don't you look at some facts before you go making some of these rash statements.

Here's some facts to help you.

Only seven out of the three hundred and eighty areas in the April league table have a tariff one flag of £1.60.

Only three have a flag below that, two @ £1.50 and one @ £1.40.

The Scottish average is £2.42 for tariff one and £3.09 for tariff two.

The Lothians West, East and Mid have tariff one flags of £2.20,£2.50 and £2.20 respectively.

Edinburgh is ranked 245th out of 380

London is 5th out of 380

Cardiff is 153rd out of 380

You're having a laugh surely! :-s



The facts you quote are about other areas. Where's the formula explaining the costs involved in running taxi, vehicle types, double shifted and single shifted vehicles, driver rentals, part time and full-time, fuel costs, etc. Then we can start comparing ourselves to other areas?

Convince me why you should have an increase in tariff and then tell me how you plan to implement the rise, without the public, or Ph, butchering us as a result?

If people stop using your services, it kind of defeats the purpose, don't you think?

Maybe the council thinks drivers are paying more than enough for a rental. Any increase would encourage owners to charge drivers more as a result, forcing them to apply for a plate. :shock:

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