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If Labour hadn't let in half of the Indian Sub Continent and Turkey,


You would have no ruby murrays or Kebabs to nosh on :sad:


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I'm voting Conservative.

I don't want my street signs being written in Urdu in the future.

If Labour hadn't let in half of the Indian Sub Continent and Turkey, the unemployment figures would have been half of what they stand at today.

And as for trade unions . . :lol:


Well the truth is they are here to stay whether we like it or not so get used to the idea of having a more "diverse" society..... :lol:


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You would have no ruby murrays or Kebabs to nosh on :sad:

So what, you'd have Desperate Dan's Cow Pie instead!!!

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On the night before the election I shall fill my tank up with diesel.

The next morning I will vote Conservative shortly after 7.00am when the polling stations open.

I will then have a good breakfast & after being feed & watered will report, as I have done over the past 25+ years, to the Conservative Party election office for my constituency.

There I will pick-up one of my Conservative Party helpers who will be armed with a list of elderly Conserative voters who find it difficult to get about & have no transport of their own.

We will then collect the first six voters off the list & deliver them to their polling station, where we will be met by a second Conservative Party helper also armed with a list, but different from the first list, of elderly Conservative voters, that are infirm & need transport to polling stations.

Whilst the first Conservative helper stays with the first batch of Conservative voters while they cast their vote, I collect the second batch of Conservative voters with the aid of the second Conservative Party helper & proceed to deliver them to the polling station, where upon arrival the first set of Conservative voters are ready to be taken back home, while the second batch stay with the second Conservative Party helper. After the first batch are delivered back home we collect the third batch & so it goes on for the rest of the day, leap-froging each batch of voters to get as many to the polling stations as possible in a day.

My record over the years is 247 Conservative voters delivered to a polling station in one day. That was in 1983 when Maggie came to power, but I had six care homes on my list that year, so it was quite easy.

I WILL DO ANYTHING JUST SHORT OF MURDER TO GET THESE COMMUNIST B*ST*RDS OUT . . . . OUT . . . . OUT ! ! ! !

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On the night before the election I shall fill my tank up with diesel.

The next morning I will vote Conservative shortly after 7.00am when the polling stations open.

I will then have a good breakfast & after being feed & watered will report, as I have done over the past 25+ years, to the Conservative Party election office for my constituency.

There I will pick-up one of my Conservative Party helpers who will be armed with a list of elderly Conserative voters who find it difficult to get about & have no transport of their own.

We will then collect the first six voters off the list & deliver them to their polling station, where we will be met by a second Conservative Party helper also armed with a list, but different from the first list, of elderly Conservative voters, that are infirm & need transport to polling stations.

Whilst the first Conservative helper stays with the first batch of Conservative voters while they cast their vote, I collect the second batch of Conservative voters with the aid of the second Conservative Party helper & proceed to deliver them to the polling station, where upon arrival the first set of Conservative voters are ready to be taken back home, while the second batch stay with the second Conservative Party helper. After the first batch are delivered back home we collect the third batch & so it goes on for the rest of the day, leap-froging each batch of voters to get as many to the polling stations as possible in a day.

My record over the years is 247 Conservative voters delivered to a polling station in one day. That was in 1983 when Maggie came to power, but I had six care homes on my list that year, so it was quite easy.

I WILL DO ANYTHING JUST SHORT OF MURDER TO GET THESE COMMUNIST B*ST*RDS OUT . . . . OUT . . . . OUT ! ! ! !

So you are undecided then? :wink:

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Toots, You'll always get those who do not intend to work no matter who gets into power..... They are called the "underclass" or criminals, and have always existed....... What can you do? Whip them into submission? Educate them which doesn't seem to work? Deport them all to some uninhabited island to fend for themselves? Shoot them all? What do you suggest?
There are also tens of thousands of honest working families that rely on tax credits because their employers only pay the minimum wage. It doesn't mean they all own the expensive luxuries that you suggest......
I just remember the last recession under the tories..... It was far more harsher than the one we have just come through.....
Maybe we need a hung parliament to get us out of the mess.....?


I think you misunderstand what I said. Tens of thousands of honest working families that rely on tax credits are far from the people my small rant was aimed at. They usually cannot afford the luxuries I mentioned. I was indeed referring to the long term unemployed who choose not to work because they are better off on benefits. This should never be the norm, you should never be better off on benefit than you are if you take a minimum wage job and then collect working tax benefit. With regard to the last recession I don't actually remember being affected by it, I don't for the live of me know why I wasn't. I also only remember the troubles we had in the 70's because I nearly set myself alight with a candle because I stood too close it with my back turned against it and I was very young. At the end of the day there are solutions to some of our long term problems but nobody, once in power, has the strength of their beliefs to tackle them. Once in power it appears that those who can make changes are afraid to say 'you are wrong to do that (whatever that is) and we are not going to support you'. There is no backbone to Britain anymore and there is nobody strong enough to make the changes standing for government. As for whipping anybody into submission if the price is right it can be arranged :wink: :lol: :lol:

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I'm voting Conservative.

I don't want my street signs being written in Urdu in the future.

If Labour hadn't let in half of the Indian Sub Continent and Turkey, the unemployment figures would have been half of what they stand at today.

And as for trade unions . . :lol:


Class, absolute Class! :roll:

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[T]he case against Thatcher is a strong one. She was a divisive leader, as on the issues of the poll tax and European integration. Her strident attitudes on social issues upset many people. Economic inequality increased under Thatcher, as did homelessness, and many social services deteriorated. She was accused of weakening basic civil liberties. Her foreign policy, though defined by a spectacular victory over Argentina in the Falklands War in 1982, was marked by Cold War rhetoric which seemed increasingly outdated by her third term in office.

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I'm voting Conservative.

I don't want my street signs being written in Urdu in the future.

If Labour hadn't let in half of the Indian Sub Continent and Turkey, the unemployment figures would have been half of what they stand at today.

And as for trade unions . . :lol:


Did Boris not recently change his mind on London Cab age limits?

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Economic inequality increased under Thatcher


Please explain :?

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Her foreign policy, though defined by a spectacular victory over Argentina in the Falklands War in 1982, was marked by Cold War rhetoric which seemed increasingly outdated by her third term in office.


At least she was honest about it and it was a legal conflict :roll:

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She was a divisive leader


I don't actually think there is anything wrong with being divisive, I mean who wants somebody who is going to agree with everything and not stand up for what they believe in. Also I don't exactly think that Labour have total accord within it

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We are the egg men

Thursday 25 March 2010

What kind of Britain do the Tories want? If you take their own self-image seriously, a Tory Britain is one where the free market rules the economy and where rural Britain is preserved.

The Tories should be a party of sharp, competitive urban entrepreneurs with whizzy small businesses bringing exciting innovations to the cities and sturdy farmers maintaining centuries-old holdings and traditions in the country.

But we all lie to ourselves a little when we look in the mirror. If you look in the Tory accounts, you'll find what looks like the opposite of these two values.

One of the latest donations to the Tories listed by the Electoral Commission came from Deans Food Group, which slapped a whopping £50,000 into David Cameron's kitty.

The sum of £50,000 is significant because it is the membership fee for joining the Conservative Party "leaders' club."

This is a bit like joining eHarmony or one of those other dating agencies they advertise on the telly, only with slightly higher charges.

After paying your money you get to go on a series of dates after checks for those "key dimensions of compatibility."

In particular they find that very rich people are compatible with Tory shadow ministers.

You could even get a date with Dave. According to the Conservatives, "members are invited to join David Cameron and other senior figures from the Conservative Party at dinners, post-Prime Ministers questions, lunches, drinks receptions, election result events and important campaign launches."

One of the groups that gets to hobnob with the Tory top nobs is Noble Foods.

And who are Noble Foods?

Well, this is an appropriate story for Easter - they are the egg men.

Noble Foods packs and delivers 60 million eggs a week. If you are eating Goldenlay, Woodland or Big & Fresh brands, your dippy egg and toasty soldiers are, I'm afraid, funding Cameron.

The Tories are tucking into a big money omelette whipped up in kitchens across Britain. Noble Foods boss Peter Dean has done well out of chickens - he has an estimated wealth of £72 million.

However, the egg business is not a very free market. Noble Foods was formed by a 2008 merger of two companies - Deans Food Group and Stonegate - which gave the new company control of at least 46 per cent of the egg market, and possibly more.

The Competition Commission ruled the merger would cause "substantial lessening of competition."

Competition Commission boss Dame Barbara Mills said the new group "would be in a notably strong position, accounting for over half of both sales of shell eggs to retailers and the supply of liquid egg."

At the risk of putting you off your soft-boileds, liquid egg is big business, with the food industry buying eggs delivered in a tanker load rather than in the shell.

So Cameron gets his cash from the would-be monopoly master of liquid eggs, the man who wanted to get the free market out of free range.

Noble Foods did not take the Competition Commission's warning lying down - it went ahead and merged anyway, with a promise to de-merge later.

This is within the rules, but it's a robust response.

Mills had two egg-based worries. First, she said: "We think it is likely that the merged company would be able to increase prices to its customers, knowing that many would be unable to respond by buying from another supplier.

"Ultimately these prices rises could feed through to the consumer."

So now you know who to blame for high-priced eggs.

Mills's second worry was that "the merged company's size could have an adverse effect on egg producers, giving it the ability and incentive to use its buying power to reduce prices."

The Conservatives' big new funder dominates egg farmers, even without the merger.

And how are egg farmers faring?

Alex Renton of The Observer newspaper investigated the egg market in 2008 and found egg farmers were doing pretty badly.

What the newspaper called "shady middlemen" seemed to be making all the money. These middlemen are the packers, and the dominant packer is Noble Foods.

Renton found that Noble just won't talk to the press. The egg farmers were reluctant to speak up as well.

One told him on condition of anonymity, "it is just too dangerous to put your head up. Most of us sell to one packer - you might say all our eggs are in one basket."

He added that "if the packer found out I'm complaining to the media, I could lose all my business overnight."

This all suggests Cameron's new chum is not looking after rural Britain, although I should say that Noble Foods by contrast claimed it paid and charged a fair price for its eggs and was pleased about the increased cash it gave to egg farmers.

At the start of the week, a paper by right-wing think tank Reform calling for cuts in NHS beds made a big splash in the news.

Its claims that hospitals should be closed and that this would save the economy but leave patients unharmed was treated very seriously on Radio 4's Today Programme and in the broadsheet newspapers.

But what is Reform? It's an organisation run in part by ex-Lehman executive Chris Gent. Former Lehman bank director Gent sits on the Reform advisory board.

So first he runs a firm whose collapse causes an economic crisis. Second he helps run a think tank which says the solution to the economic crisis is cutting hospital beds.

Oddly enough, Gent's biography on the Reform website makes no mention of the fact that he was a Lehman director - the job has been airbrushed from history.

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Economic inequality increased under Thatcher


Please explain :?

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Her foreign policy, though defined by a spectacular victory over Argentina in the Falklands War in 1982, was marked by Cold War rhetoric which seemed increasingly outdated by her third term in office.


At least she was honest about it and it was a legal conflict :roll:

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I don't actually think there is anything wrong with being divisive, I mean who wants somebody who is going to agree with everything and not stand up for what they believe in. Also I don't exactly think that Labour have total accord within it


Divisive

1.forming or expressing division or distribution.
2.creating dissension or discord.

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Execellent BB and when Labour are squeaky clean the flying pigs will take a long earned rest. In fact I don't and never will expect any government to be squeaky clean but I can live with all my eggs in one basket so to speak it's business and is done every day at different levels to different people but usually has the same effect. The only reason there are no more closed shops is because it was deemed unethical and now illegal. I consider unions the past masters of eggs and baskets :wink:

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1.forming or expressing division or distribution.
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I understand what divisive is. You never explained my other query?

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