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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:39 am 
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Put the cap back on and it won't take a single cab off the road.
Cabs will just end up double shifted and PH will increase.
When the equality act comes through, the cap won't matter anyway.
Your council won't be able to refuse anyone with a WAV, not while enough saloons are still plated.


Most Cabs in Dundee are double shifted and we have never had more ph .We needed to do something.


There will be more if you manage to cap taxi numbers.
You lot will be the ones paying thousands for a survey with no guarantee of the outcome you want.
The Equality bill could make any cap worthless, and it's almost through parliament now.

Is the wrong something any better than nothing?

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On 31st May all Dundee Operator licences are due, ir would never happen but, if that one show of solidarity was implemented then,and only then would the Trade in Dundee have the upper hand.
If this was properly conducted with sound legal advice then, i an certain we would be on a winner. Of course DDC would attempt to retreive the plates, (after all it's their property) but, if an interdict if served upon them (as Dundee Private Hire did} to prevent them fron doing so,then my dear comrades,let the war begin.


Here's the first thing your sound legal advice will tell you.

If you refuse to renew your licences, you won't have a legal leg to stand on. No court will grant an injunction which will extend your licence when you could have done so yourself by filling in the form and paying the renewal fee.
Come June 1st, you will all be operating without a licence.
That's a criminal offence under the CGSA 1982 .
It will also invalidate your insurance - another offence.
Conviction for either could also call in to question your fitness to hold a badge.

Aside from that, when you do re-apply, you will be making an application for the grant of a new licence, not renewing your existing licence.
If this difference is lost on anyone, it means that your taxi must conform with the regulations for a new licence - i.e. latest spec WAV and under the appropriate age for a new grant.

Your council will be duty bound to recover their plates from formerly licenced vehicles and as they belong to the council, you would be committing theft if you attempted to hold onto them.

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I'll take a wild guess and say it will have words like “equality” in it. You do know what equality means. Don't you CC?


:roll:


Errm, my guess is its for the user......not the owner.

CC


Aye right enough CC, equality should only apply to certain sections of the population? What a fecking trumpet you are sometimes. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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gusmac wrote:
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On 31st May all Dundee Operator licences are due, ir would never happen but, if that one show of solidarity was implemented then,and only then would the Trade in Dundee have the upper hand.
If this was properly conducted with sound legal advice then, i an certain we would be on a winner. Of course DDC would attempt to retreive the plates, (after all it's their property) but, if an interdict if served upon them (as Dundee Private Hire did} to prevent them fron doing so,then my dear comrades,let the war begin.


Here's the first thing your sound legal advice will tell you.

If you refuse to renew your licences, you won't have a legal leg to stand on. No court will grant an injunction which will extend your licence when you could have done so yourself by filling in the form and paying the renewal fee.
Come June 1st, you will all be operating without a licence.
That's a criminal offence under the CGSA 1982 .
It will also invalidate your insurance - another offence.
Conviction for either could also call in to question your fitness to hold a badge.

Aside from that, when you do re-apply, you will be making an application for the grant of a new licence, not renewing your existing licence.
If this difference is lost on anyone, it means that your taxi must conform with the regulations for a new licence - i.e. latest spec WAV and under the appropriate age for a new grant.

Your council will be duty bound to recover their plates from formerly licenced vehicles and as they belong to the council, you would be committing theft if you attempted to hold onto them.


Disagree !!! 203020 were granted an interdict to halt the very same.


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Maybe if some of the old guys in there late 60s and 70s were to retire and hand in there plates there would be a bit more work to go around, a lot of it boils down to greed and not wanting to let go, these older guys must have made a good living when times were better, so come on time to retire and take up some golf, thanks


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Steve i agree but unfortunately a lot of them did not plan for retirement.Also allot of them see there plate as there pension.In a ideal world it would be good if they were forced to retire but at the moment there is no requirement for them to do that. :sad:


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if a medical was required every 3 to 5 years might catch some of them out. through not fit proper to hold a badge :wink:


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Stationtone, once you have landed your cap on plates, what then? The life of a taxi baron businessman renting out his taxi to cabbies, who can't get a licence? Then waiting to sell out to some mug, prepared to pawn the family silver, to buy into a market, about to be de-restricted?


No doubt about it, you are a man among men. :roll:


What will happen is that the over supply of taxis will be cemented in place until demand rises to match it.

What is really needed here is taxis to leave the market because of market forces.

There should be no licence transfers allowed, as stated in the Law.

There should be provisions put in place to allow licence holders to mothball their licences until the market picks up. People could leave the market temporarily, knowing that when demand increases they can easily re-enter it.

Replacing the cap is the mindset of an idiot. It's just cabbies doing what cabbies always do. Falling back to old ways. Which have no place in a modern free market economy.


Proof positive that you two aint got a f*cking clue what your on about. :roll:

CC


Listen Bud, I've had 4 £200 plus nights this week. I would normally expect 2. Who could have predicted that.

And what you've just shown is that you haven't got a scooby. We need peoiple to leave the market. Either through common sense or pain.

A cap, with false plate values, prevents that.

You've lost it CC. You haven't got a scooby.

Why don't you just admit it. You need a cap tp protect your illusion of being a "businessman".

Grow up!

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Judicial review is the only way forward !

DCC have got to be exposed for all their dodgy dealings with one company.


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My suggestion is to give the SNP time and support there is a real change in attitude coming from the licences committee and i believe that the SNP are really listen to our concerns.

If the trade keeps on supporting the SNP administration i am sure we will see a big change in the Dundee taxi trade.

Also all of you that have heard about fat sams central it is now closed.Working that area on Friday and Saturday night was like a breath of fresh air. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


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tx_op wrote:

Disagree !!! 203020 were granted an interdict to halt the very same.


Did 203020 refuse to apply and pay for their renewals?

I heard they went to court to prevent the council revoking their licences on the grounds that the company which held them had gone bust....... and the company operating the cabs wasn't the one which held the licences.

Interdict or not, didn't they subsequently lose these licences?

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My suggestion is to give the SNP time and support there is a real change in attitude coming from the licences committee and i believe that the SNP are really listen to our concerns.

If the trade keeps on supporting the SNP administration i am sure we will see a big change in the Dundee taxi trade.

Also all of you that have heard about fat sams central it is now closed.Working that area on Friday and Saturday night was like a breath of fresh air. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


You honestly expect the Scottish Nasty Party to sort this out?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're as big a trumpet as tx-op.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I wondered how long it would take for you to start with your insults :roll:

And yes i do think the SNP will make a difference.They are a lot better than the raving loony party . :lol:


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stationtone wrote:
I wondered how long it would take for you to start with your insults :roll:


I cant believe you wondered that.....as soon as you made you're view on taxi numbers known you were a target.

As for 'Wee Jimmy Krankee', you can see how ignorant he is by his suggestions in this thread, what was the idea......

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There should be provisions put in place to allow licence holders to mothball their licences until the market picks up. People could leave the market temporarily, knowing that when demand increases they can easily re-enter it.


A suggestion of a feckwit, a person will presumably mothball their rather expensive vehicle too, and leave a profession they have invested time and effort into, to go into another?

ffs the guy doesn't even know that Easter is a busy time of the year for taxis and wonders why he's had 4 x £200 shifts this past week!

Putting a few large words into a post, or letter to a local paper makes people think he's got a brain, unfortunately he's only got a thesaurus.

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