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Army builds 'mosques' on North Yorkshire firing range
The MOD said the buildings 'replicated the environment' of Afghanistan


Thursday, 8 April 2010

A Muslim group has demanded an apology from the British Army after it emerged that replica mosques were being used on a North Yorkshire firing range.

The chairman of the Bradford Council for Mosques (BCM) said the structures at Catterick should be taken down immediately.

The Ministry of Defence said it had "no intention" of causing offence.

The BMC said it was particularly angry as it had been assisting the army in its efforts to recruit more Muslims.

'Really disturbing'

Saleem Khan, the chief executive of the BCM, called for the Army to apologise.

"The first thing they need to do is remove this straight away," he said.

"They do owe apologies to the Muslim community and it is the mind set which needs changing."

There are seven of the structures on the range at Bellerby, which have green domed roofs. Ishtiaq Ahmed of the BCM said that they were undoubtedly meant to resemble mosques.

"The shape of the structures, the colour of the dome - the green dome - symbolises an Islamic place of worship," he said.

"Anyone looking at it will think about mosques and Muslims and think about them negatively."

He accused the Army of reinforcing negative perceptions of Muslims.

"What angers me very much is that we are conditioning the young British to say that mosques are a place where you are going to find danger and a place to target," Mr Ahmed said.

"That is really disturbing."

An MOD spokesman said that the range had been designed in response to feedback from Afghanistan.

"Providing the best training facilities for our armed forces ahead of deployment to operational theatres is a priority for us," a spokesman said.

"Facilities at Bellerby have been upgraded in response to operational feedback from Afghanistan as it is crucial that our armed forces train at ranges that replicate the environment they will be deployed to.

"We have no intention of offending religious sensibilities."

Source; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nort ... 608282.stm


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:15 pm 
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Army builds 'mosques' on North Yorkshire firing range
The MOD said the buildings 'replicated the environment' of Afghanistan


Thursday, 8 April 2010

A Muslim group has demanded an apology from the British Army after it emerged that replica mosques were being used on a North Yorkshire firing range.

The chairman of the Bradford Council for Mosques (BCM) said the structures at Catterick should be taken down immediately.

The Ministry of Defence said it had "no intention" of causing offence.

The BMC said it was particularly angry as it had been assisting the army in its efforts to recruit more Muslims.

'Really disturbing'

Saleem Khan, the chief executive of the BCM, called for the Army to apologise.

"The first thing they need to do is remove this straight away," he said.

"They do owe apologies to the Muslim community and it is the mind set which needs changing."

There are seven of the structures on the range at Bellerby, which have green domed roofs. Ishtiaq Ahmed of the BCM said that they were undoubtedly meant to resemble mosques.

"The shape of the structures, the colour of the dome - the green dome - symbolises an Islamic place of worship," he said.

"Anyone looking at it will think about mosques and Muslims and think about them negatively."

He accused the Army of reinforcing negative perceptions of Muslims.

"What angers me very much is that we are conditioning the young British to say that mosques are a place where you are going to find danger and a place to target," Mr Ahmed said.

"That is really disturbing."

An MOD spokesman said that the range had been designed in response to feedback from Afghanistan.

"Providing the best training facilities for our armed forces ahead of deployment to operational theatres is a priority for us," a spokesman said.

"Facilities at Bellerby have been upgraded in response to operational feedback from Afghanistan as it is crucial that our armed forces train at ranges that replicate the environment they will be deployed to.

"We have no intention of offending religious sensibilities."

Source; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nort ... 608282.stm


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Shouldnt be a problem...Im sure there a few churches on firing ranges to...so why should some religions expect preferential treatment over others.


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They dismantled them tonight.

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They dismantled them tonight.

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Thats it...The Great British roll over and play dead approach to appeasement.. :?


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They dismantled them tonight.

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Thats it...The Great British roll over and play dead approach to appeasement.. :?


There was an asian guy on the telly from middlesborough, he was rather good and he said he didnt see the problem with them, unfortunately the press and government tend to listen to screwed up minorities who have f*ck all better to do.

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What a waste of time!!!

It would have been quicker to blow them up with tank shells.

But the whole idea of these pseudo-mosques in the first place was so that the army could be trained at missing the mosques during firing practice, so that in the theatre of war there was less chance of them being hit.

Now the protesters have 'shot themselves in the foot', because when the army do hit a mosque with artillery in Afganistan, they can now rightly say that they tried to practice missing them, but were prevented from doing so.

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captain cab wrote:
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What a waste of time!!!

It would have been quicker to blow them up with tank shells.

But the whole idea of these pseudo-mosques in the first place was so that the army could be trained at missing the mosques during firing practice, so that in the theatre of war there was less chance of them being hit.

Now the protesters have 'shot themselves in the foot', because when the army do hit a mosque with artillery in Afganistan, they can now rightly say that they tried to practice missing them, but were prevented from doing so.



Billions of Pounds spent on advanced tank and and gunnery weaponolgy including laser sighting and gyroscopically levelled barrels to insure pinpoint accuracy even on the move....and what do we do?.......train our gunners to miss for fear of shooting someone.

How very, very British in its logic.. :-k


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