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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:56 pm 
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As part of a new initiative by our County Council we have been asked to produce a Health and Safety Policy for the company. So we can still tender for School Contracts :roll:

Apart from Cabbyman (who is in the same county as us) has any others had to do this?

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echo15 wrote:
As part of a new initiative by our County Council we have been asked to produce a Health and Safety Policy for the company. So we can still tender for School Contracts :roll:

Apart from Cabbyman (who is in the same county as us) has any others had to do this?


When tendering for a contract I once was.

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echo15 wrote:
As part of a new initiative by our County Council we have been asked to produce a Health and Safety Policy for the company. So we can still tender for School Contracts :roll:

Apart from Cabbyman (who is in the same county as us) has any others had to do this?

This is all about risk assessment & management, more than anything else.

My sister-in-law is a really big noise in Health & Safety. Your council will want to see a written document outlining what your proceedure would be in a variety of situations that you may come across whilst doing this type of work in particular & also generally. The more specific risks you can identify, the better the document.

But for a Health & Safety professional to write a manual for you could cost you a grand or two.

Try the internet for some guidance, otherwise you may have to pay the bucks.

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echo15 wrote:
As part of a new initiative by our County Council we have been asked to produce a Health and Safety Policy for the company. So we can still tender for School Contracts :roll:

Apart from Cabbyman (who is in the same county as us) has any others had to do this?

Send Mr Brighton Breezy a PM. :wink:

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We're not bothering as a company. They want us to jump triple backward somersaults through burning hoops. If any of our drivers wish to individually, they're welcome.


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Its an odd one.......is it the Health and safety policy of the Company employees that worries the council....or is it the Fire Extinguisher, First aid Kit and First aid training of the Driver doing the runs that concerns them....Lets be honest...how much can you do in preperation of a vehicle accident that would be covered by a health and safety policy.


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bloodnock wrote:
Its an odd one.......is it the Health and safety policy of the Company employees that worries the council....or is it the Fire Extinguisher, First aid Kit and First aid training of the Driver doing the runs that concerns them....Lets be honest...how much can you do in preperation of a vehicle accident that would be covered by a health and safety policy.


If you think about it.....lots....its all BS.....but lots :wink:

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Our problem is that we are a non-profit company with self-employed owner/drivers. Those of us who give up time to run the company do so without pay; That actually means about 30 of us doing bits and pieces, with others mucking in as and when.

They want the company to have £10,000,000 public liability when we are effectively a call centre employed by the drivers. They want a written 'elf 'n' safety policy for a situation where in most instances drivers are banned from entering the office except in certain circumstances. The final straw, AIUI, is their processing company want paying for telling us about the contracts they want us to tender for, ffs.

We don't have the resources for that. Indivdual drivers doing their own school runs leave a greater share of the cake for those who prefer more flexibility, so it works both ways.


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If you think about it.....lots....its all BS...


It is when you turn up for a booked Council Account job and one of these "volunteer drivers" is already there looking like he has just been bait digging in a clapped out Astra and claiming he was booked weeks ago :twisted: :twisted:

Cabbyman I can really see your point going to put it to our lot :roll: But I'll be p***ing in the wind I think :lol:

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Ask them what it is they require....

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captain cab wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Its an odd one.......is it the Health and safety policy of the Company employees that worries the council....or is it the Fire Extinguisher, First aid Kit and First aid training of the Driver doing the runs that concerns them....Lets be honest...how much can you do in preperation of a vehicle accident that would be covered by a health and safety policy.


If you think about it.....lots....its all BS.....but lots :wink:

CC


I am thinking about...short of employing trained paramedics as drivers and fitting you vehicles with Defibrillators...what else can one do?

As to what happens by way of a health and safety at your place of work...well..that has little relevance to the actual transportation of school pupils..


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cabbyman wrote:
Our problem is that we are a non-profit company with self-employed owner/drivers. Those of us who give up time to run the company do so without pay; That actually means about 30 of us doing bits and pieces, with others mucking in as and when.

They want the company to have £10,000,000 public liability when we are effectively a call centre employed by the drivers. They want a written 'elf 'n' safety policy for a situation where in most instances drivers are banned from entering the office except in certain circumstances. The final straw, AIUI, is their processing company want paying for telling us about the contracts they want us to tender for, ffs.

We don't have the resources for that. Indivdual drivers doing their own school runs leave a greater share of the cake for those who prefer more flexibility, so it works both ways.


If you take a booking and pass it on to a driver who is not licensed correctly or not insured etc and you have not got a robust system in place for checking these items, you could be held liable if any accident occurs including corportate manslaughter if the worse was to happen. It is easier to write a policy than it sounds but you do have to do it rather than just paying lip service to it, check out the HSE website, you may be surprised.

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Ask them what it is they require....


I went part way through the prcess, answering [I think] 78 questions as a pre qualification questionnaire! I was scared off by how many stoopid questions I'd have to answer on the 'qualification' questionnaire.

Still, their problem. If they make it too difficult, they won't be able to get the kids to school!


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cabbyman wrote:
MR T wrote:
Ask them what it is they require....


I went part way through the prcess, answering [I think] 78 questions as a pre qualification questionnaire! I was scared off by how many stoopid questions I'd have to answer on the 'qualification' questionnaire.

Still, their problem. If they make it too difficult, they won't be able to get the kids to school!


It just seems to sum up half of whats screwing this country up....needless beaurocracy staffed by myriads of overly paid non jobs that specialise in coming up with utter nonsense in order try and justify the nonjob position that they actually hold....and in full knowledge that it pleases their direct superiors by diverting the flack away from their own nonjob management position....which offers a bigger gold plated pension than a junior nonjob position does.

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What we obviously didn't do, was:

1. Check your Local Authorities Web site for "Their" H&S Policy on transport matters.
2. Download it into "Word" or similar.
3. Use "Find and Replace" to delete the local authorities name.
4. Insert your own name.
5. Send copy of it back to the Council.

Chances are, they will never actually read it.

When and if they do (which obviously didn't happen to us) (as we never did this in the first place):

1. They will (with some embarassment as you have just proven that it took them nearly three years to look at it) ask you to ammend certain items; such as why we mention lift access on our seventh floor (when we only have two floors).
2. Then file the ammended copy away in perpetuity.

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