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Difficult one to find out and who cares anyway!

The reason why I care is that if nothing was done the trade would go on a downward spiral of deteriorating standards, as to compete with sh**, on an equal level, you must become sh** yourself. :sad: :sad:


So do you think stricter nationwide standards and a more uniform cost system would be the answer to these problems of licencing in less strict or cheaper areas and then working in busier areas?

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So do you think stricter nationwide standards and a more uniform cost system would be the answer to these problems of licencing in less strict or cheaper areas and then working in busier areas?

We have to ask why someone would license themselves in area A only to work predominately in area B.

The only reason can be less onerous standards, thus those drivers are taking the pi** out of all of us that want higher standards.

The highest earners (generally) in the land are London cab drivers, it's no coincidence that they have the hardest time getting licensed.

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Sussex wrote:
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So do you think stricter nationwide standards and a more uniform cost system would be the answer to these problems of licencing in less strict or cheaper areas and then working in busier areas?

We have to ask why someone would license themselves in area A only to work predominately in area B.

The only reason can be less onerous standards, thus those drivers are taking the pi** out of all of us that want higher standards.

The highest earners (generally) in the land are London cab drivers, it's no coincidence that they have the hardest time getting licensed.


So in effect a stricter nationwide standard and more uniform cost would be beneficial seeing as the reason to be licenced in one area and work in another will be down to costs and ease of licencing in different areas. I think the fact that London is an extremely busy place also has something to do with a cab drivers ability to earn. The knowledge is as is said self regulating and beneficial to the trade there it's a shame they have 2nd class standards for the PH in London

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Sussex wrote:
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So do you think stricter nationwide standards and a more uniform cost system would be the answer to these problems of licencing in less strict or cheaper areas and then working in busier areas?

We have to ask why someone would license themselves in area A only to work predominately in area B.

The only reason can be less onerous standards, thus those drivers are taking the pi** out of all of us that want higher standards.

The highest earners (generally) in the land are London cab drivers, it's no coincidence that they have the hardest time getting licensed.


One Council doesn't allow certain convictions and endorsements, the other Council does. One Council has an age policy one vehicles, the other Council doesn't.

That's why they plate and badge them in Bolsover and work Mansfield.


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Sussex wrote:
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So do you think stricter nationwide standards and a more uniform cost system would be the answer to these problems of licencing in less strict or cheaper areas and then working in busier areas?

We have to ask why someone would license themselves in area A only to work predominately in area B.

The only reason can be less onerous standards, thus those drivers are taking the pi** out of all of us that want higher standards.

The highest earners (generally) in the land are London cab drivers, it's no coincidence that they have the hardest time getting licensed.


One Council doesn't allow certain convictions and endorsements, the other Council does. One Council has an age policy one vehicles, the other Council doesn't.

That's why they plate and badge them in Bolsover and work Mansfield.


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Is that so?

Is that so?

Now you can see double again.

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we have national speed limits, a central DVLA for vehicle issues, HMRC = 1 tax office, VOSA oversee passenger (+8 seats) and haulage under one national framework

hacks/PH have borders, LOs (wheres my arse) and rules from the 1800s...


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we have national speed limits, a central DVLA for vehicle issues, HMRC = 1 tax office, VOSA oversee passenger (+8 seats) and haulage under one national framework

hacks/PH have borders, LOs (wheres my arse) and rules from the 1800s...
Agree one rule, one job description.
Some other PPL are like hyenas scrapping over out dated laws and practices. If you’re lucky enough to have a decent LO [sniggering] then good luck, most haven’t so why should they have to worry about were a telephone call is made. The rules are flawed and owners/drivers are just trying to make money like everyone else.
I believe ppl should be turning their guns towards the government instead of your colleagues.


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Here is a post from another forum regarding cross border licensing. Is this legal?

Some councils will now cross border licence. I know that Castle Point, Essex (where I operate) do. They realise that some councils will not licence, so as long as the operator is prepared to go to the CP Council, produce there vehicles for MOT, drivers for licencing, complete driving competence courses, attend disabled assistance courses, CRB, ISA etc etc, as long as the Op passes the critiria they will licence that company. Their attitude is one of being very pro active for licencing limousines. Only yesterday I got City Link Limos in Enfield to apply for their licence at Castle Point in Essex, City Link are based in Enfield, Hertfordshire, some 40 miles away.

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What if it was the England Scotland border and you Moved to or lived in say Berwick on the English side but most of your work traditionally came from 1 mile up the road over Scottish side of the border where you had Contracts and Customers....could you Licence under the Scottish Borders council whilst you actually lived in Northumberland?

Im sure their must be many an owner operator that Lives elsewhere from where they operate. This gets a bit blurred as your licence for a Taxi or PH in Scotland also acts as your Operators licence for a couple of vehicles which i think requires a seperate licence on the english side.


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What if it was the England Scotland border and you Moved to or lived in say Berwick on the English side but most of your work traditionally came from 1 mile up the road over Scottish side of the border where you had Contracts and Customers....could you Licence under the Scottish Borders council whilst you actually lived in Northumberland?

Im sure their must be many an owner operator that Lives elsewhere from where they operate. This gets a bit blurred as your licence for a Taxi or PH in Scotland also acts as your Operators licence for a couple of vehicles which i think requires a seperate licence on the english side.


I believe that you can live where you like but if you have an operators license in one area then you must answer the calls in that area and the cars and drivers must also be licensed in that area.

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What if it was the England Scotland border and you Moved to or lived in say Berwick on the English side but most of your work traditionally came from 1 mile up the road over Scottish side of the border where you had Contracts and Customers....could you Licence under the Scottish Borders council whilst you actually lived in Northumberland?

Both the English and Scottish Acts have exemptions, of sorts, for that kind of scenarios.

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What if it was the England Scotland border and you Moved to or lived in say Berwick on the English side but most of your work traditionally came from 1 mile up the road over Scottish side of the border where you had Contracts and Customers....could you Licence under the Scottish Borders council whilst you actually lived in Northumberland?

Im sure their must be many an owner operator that Lives elsewhere from where they operate. This gets a bit blurred as your licence for a Taxi or PH in Scotland also acts as your Operators licence for a couple of vehicles which i think requires a seperate licence on the english side.


I believe that you can live where you like but if you have an operators license in one area then you must answer the calls in that area and the cars and drivers must also be licensed in that area.


Be an odd one....Dialling codes are the same so you could transfer your existing landline number or use a Mobile.

It might come in handy when the clowns at the Scottish parliament starts to use their soon to be found powers to Raise income Tax above that of the rest of the UKs........Be nice to Escape from the grips of that particular Circus act and one Level of Goverment less as well...A real Bonus.


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What if it was the England Scotland border and you Moved to or lived in say Berwick on the English side but most of your work traditionally came from 1 mile up the road over Scottish side of the border where you had Contracts and Customers....could you Licence under the Scottish Borders council whilst you actually lived in Northumberland?

Im sure their must be many an owner operator that Lives elsewhere from where they operate. This gets a bit blurred as your licence for a Taxi or PH in Scotland also acts as your Operators licence for a couple of vehicles which i think requires a seperate licence on the english side.


I believe that you can live where you like but if you have an operators license in one area then you must answer the calls in that area and the cars and drivers must also be licensed in that area.


how would i block calls from outside my LA, especially when my STD code covers parts of about 6 LAs....


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wannabeeahack wrote:
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bloodnock wrote:
What if it was the England Scotland border and you Moved to or lived in say Berwick on the English side but most of your work traditionally came from 1 mile up the road over Scottish side of the border where you had Contracts and Customers....could you Licence under the Scottish Borders council whilst you actually lived in Northumberland?

Im sure their must be many an owner operator that Lives elsewhere from where they operate. This gets a bit blurred as your licence for a Taxi or PH in Scotland also acts as your Operators licence for a couple of vehicles which i think requires a seperate licence on the english side.


I believe that you can live where you like but if you have an operators license in one area then you must answer the calls in that area and the cars and drivers must also be licensed in that area.


how would i block calls from outside my LA, especially when my STD code covers parts of about 6 LAs....


It is not where the call is made, it is where it is answered. A PH operator can accept bookings from anywhere but it is supposed to be answered in the office, within the district.

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