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Looks like it's going to get messy.

Tell us more please. The BBC are on their way to do what exactly?

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Don't worry Toots I think nige has blown a gasket and gone off his rocker

Good.

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IDFIMH

never been very good at cryptic clues so please enlighten us I assume this is taxi protest related ?

About them trying to suspend us, Interview has been done it's on from 6.30am in the morning.

BBC Radio are meeting us at 7.30am in the morining.

Is a brief synopsis of the situation too much to ask?

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http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14214

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IDFIMH

I don't have television or radio at home so if there is a link available once it's been on air would you please post it on here please

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I'll place a link on here just for you.

Having read the original letter posted on this thread by Mr Sussex under the link, http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14214, my advice to you & your mates is to tell your LPO Mr K Neale;

"B*LLOCKS WITH A VERY GREAT, HUGE, MASSIVE, ENORMOUS BIG B"

MR K Neale writes in that letter, 'The situation has not improved and drivers are therefore continuing to fail to comply with the conditions attached to their Hire Vehicle Drivers Licence.'

Conditions of Hire Vehicle Drivers Licence?

No such F*CKING thing if you are a Hackney Carriage Driver!

So if anyone is suspended under these irrelevant conditions, give immediate notice of appeal to the courts, to the licensing officer or committee there & then in writing (letter previously prepared), which allows the driver to continue working without interruption. You MUST follow the appeal through!

The grounds of appeal are that Hackney Carriage DRIVERS may only be governed by Hackney Carriage Driver Bye-laws & any Conditions on Hire Vehicle Drivers Licence on Hackney Carriage Drivers are worthless, irrelevant & cannot be upheld legally.

I am 99.9% certain that Keith Jeffreys (renowned taxi solicitor; probably better than Jimmy Button) had a similar case upheld in court some years back & in 2005 our own Head of Regulatory Services in Brum wrote in a report to our Licensing Committee (when we too did not have Bye-laws in those days), something on the lines of, ‘Hackney Carriage Drivers should be regulated by Bye-laws & without them a Licensing Officer cannot even enforce a HC driver wearing a HC driver’s badge’.

I was right; the web-page link to the Keith Jeffreys court case summary as detailed above is;
http://www.tapin2taxis.co.uk/court-cases.asp and the court case in question is three quarters of the way down the page & reads;

Royal Courts of Justice Administrative Court 12th July 2002
Jeffrey Wathan-v-Neath & Port Talbot County Borough Council - Before Sir Edwin Jowitt - Case Stated - Held - The Applicant's appeal against the decision of Neath Magistrates be upheld - The Conduct of a Hackney Carriage Driver (if to be regulated) must be regulated by way of Bye Laws and not Conditions of Licence. s68 Town Police Clauses Act 1847 is the relevant provision so far as Bye Laws are concerned. There is no power under the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 to attach Conditions to the Licenses of Hackney Carriage Drivers. The Respondent was ordered to pay the Appellant's costs in relation to the Case Stated and the costs below - Solicitor for the Appellant Keith Jeffreys Kearns & Co Swansea - Counsel for the Appellant Mr. Peter Maddox Iscoed Chambers Swansea - Solicitor for the Respondent Neath & Port Talbot legel Dept - Counsel for the Respondent Mr. Paul Thomas Iscoed Chambers Swansea.

Once again tell Mr K Neale to F8CK ORRRRRRRRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF! And come back when the Bye-laws are in place.

That should hold him up for a year or three & you could complain to the Licensing Committee why he does not know his job & is trying to enforce driver suspensions illegally. The Licensing Committee may just think he is a Big Knob & needs replacing!!!

P.S. Sorry to all about the language in this post, but this tw*t MR K Neale has got me FULLY wound up.

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I think the council have stated that the suspensions, if they happen, will be immediate because of the danger posed to the public by the drivers.

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Grandad,

Me thinks you need a chill pill and a bar of soap

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That's as may be, but they still CANNOT regulate HC drivers by conditions, it MUST be bye-laws.

Indeed the specimen bye-laws provided to LAs by the DfT have a specific clause that relates to what a HC driver should do when he has dropped off a fare & is then for hire.

From memory (& I'm not going down to the cab to quote from our bye-laws) it says something like, 'when for hire / or having dropped off a passenger & for hire, a HC driver will proceed to the nearest HC stand & take up a space at the rear of that stand & if that stand is full of HCs, the driver will proceed to the next nearest HC stand & take up a space at the rear of that stand & if that stand is also full shall proceed to the next nearest stand & will continue in such manner until he finds a space on a HC stand'.

That bye-laws cannot be enforced by Mr K Neale, because he seems to be bereft of any HC bye-laws whatsoever. So suspending HC drivers without bye-laws is a 'NO NO'.

I take your point about the danger posed, but that is a police matter & the LO cannot enforce anything because there do not seem to be any HC bye-laws in force.

BTW, if HC bye-laws were in force, that gives drivers the right to abide by the bye-laws & continually seek a space on a rank. When we are moved on from vastly over-ranked rank in Brum, the brothers call out all their brothers from slumber after the night shift or vice versa & there is then a MASS seeking of spaces on a rank as provided for by the bye-laws. This creates mass congestion in the city & in the past has caused a situation where the M6 onto the M( 38 ) Aston Expressway (Spaghetti Junction) has been blocked causing mayhem on the motorway. In such an exercise of HC drivers seeking a free space on a rank, all drivers have their bye-laws to hand in case they are stopped & asked what they are doing by Mr Plod & show the relevant bye-law to the Police. All they are doing is complying with the bye-laws & there ain't much they can do about that.

Needless to say, Mr Plod rarely moves drivers on now from over-ranked ranks, because of the traffic mayhem such actions cause.

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Chill Pill with a dick-head like MR K Neale.

Another pen-pushing, self-important wally!!!

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Brummie Cabbie.

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