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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:16 pm 
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Taxi dispute goes to appeal court

A cabbie with 37 years experience has taken Darlington Borough Council to court over its policy of making taxi drivers sit an advanced test. Malcolm Kaye was refused a Hackney carriage licence because he had not passed the DSA Driver pass certificate.

Currently the law only requires cabbies to have passed a standard driving test and have held a licence for 12 months. Mr Kaye, backed by his union Amicus, was challenging the council ruling that he should also take the advanced test.

In July magistrates in Bishop Auckland ruled the council had been unlawful. The council then took the case to London's Royal Court of Justice, and judgement has been deferred until Christmas.

Taxi drivers in Darlington are supporting his case, saying that drivers with many years of experience should be exempt from having to take the test. Gerry Huntley, Amicus regional officer said: "Malcolm has been a cabbie for 37 years, he's never had a complaint or been involved in an accident. "He's a victim of a mad cap test plucked out of thin air."

The council was not making any comment on the case.

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the NTA column in taxitalk mentioned this :shock: hehe

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I bet you any money the council will lose this one they aint a leg to stand on.

how come you are fit on a Monday but not a Tuesday

Darlington have missed one big point, a renewal is different from a new application.

they are as thick as pig [edited by admin].


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So you're saying that licensing conditions can never be changed then?


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they are thinking of doing the same thing on HGV licencing ie taking a re test every 5 years sooner or later the rules are gonna come from brussels and then there will be trouble


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they are thinking of doing the same thing on HGV licencing ie taking a re test every 5 years sooner or later the rules are gonna come from brussels and then there will be trouble


yep and a national wagon strike if it happens too

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agabbycabbie wrote:
they are thinking of doing the same thing on HGV licencing ie taking a re test every 5 years sooner or later the rules are gonna come from brussels and then there will be trouble

I think that is already in place, or will be very soon.

A mate of mine teaches HGV drivers for the new test, and he is a very happy bunny. :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:08 am 
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So you're saying that licensing conditions can never be changed then?


by changing by laws occasionaly, depends on circumstance, but as the clever ass that runs TDO you should know that taxis dont have conditions read Kearns

so yes conditions for taxis is a no no.

on driver licensing qualifications bye laws cannot be changed, read some decent law books insead of the button crap.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:26 am 
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I bet you any money the council will lose this one they aint a leg to stand on.

how come you are fit on a Monday but not a Tuesday

Darlington have missed one big point, a renewal is different from a new application.

they are as thick as pig s**t.


They aren't far from the monkey hangers though are they so it might make sense.


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dont understand that Nige not on the same wavelength.

by the way the franchises on the east coast line have to be submitted in the morning.

that Nigel is your favourite firm GNER with its neck in the noose.

we have a taxi on its way now with a parcel in the boot, but its not from GNER

ROUMOUR HAS IT THAT 4 COMPANIES HAVE BEEN INVITED TO TENDER

keep your fingers crossed Nige, Gner MAY lose the franchise.


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dont understand that Nige not on the same wavelength.


Yorkie,

legend / fact has it, that during the napolionic wars a ship was in trouble off the coast near hartlepool.

The ship apparently carried a monkey.

The nice people of hartlepool couldnt figure out what it was, and reckoned it was a french spy.

They went on to hang the thing in a public execution!

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dont understand that Nige not on the same wavelength.


Yorkie,

legend / fact has it, that during the napolionic wars a ship was in trouble off the coast near hartlepool.

The ship apparently carried a monkey.

The nice people of hartlepool couldnt figure out what it was, and reckoned it was a french spy.

They went on to hang the thing in a public execution!

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Captain Cab



well I think they were not sure, wise in Hartlepool, if in doubt hang it.
years later they fell in love with them and elected one as mayor?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:56 am 
Yorkie wrote:
I bet you any money the council will lose this one they aint a leg to stand on.

how come you are fit on a Monday but not a Tuesday

Darlington have missed one big point, a renewal is different from a new application.

they are as thick as pig s**t.


Sounds like a trick Mansfield Council would pull.


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Yorkie wrote:
I bet you any money the council will lose this one they aint a leg to stand on.

how come you are fit on a Monday but not a Tuesday

Darlington have missed one big point, a renewal is different from a new application.

they are as thick as pig s**t.


Oh?


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Yorkie wrote:
TDO wrote:
So you're saying that licensing conditions can never be changed then?


by changing by laws occasionaly, depends on circumstance, but as the clever ass that runs TDO you should know that taxis dont have conditions read Kearns

so yes conditions for taxis is a no no.

on driver licensing qualifications bye laws cannot be changed, read some decent law books insead of the button crap.


Well I did mean 'conditions' in the loose sense, ie as something that the driver has to adhere to, not the form that this something comes in.

But, anyway, the High Court clearly disagrees with you re the DSA case.

I would have a read of the Button book if I was you!

BTW, I don't have any of the books, but I'm maybe getting one for Xmas - what's the title of the Kearns book, I didn't know they did one :?:


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