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Seems to be mixed feelings on this issue ! Unfortunately York is one of the few remaining places that it is possible to ' rent ' a plate.
To set things straight ' The owner of the vehicle must be the Hackney Vehicle License holder ' ! Thats the law ! Fact ! All 'plates' are, and always will be the property of the council ! Fact ! Each of these ' thefts' will be judged on their own merits, and believe me, each case is different. Theft ? No ! Doing whats right ? Yes !
Seems its the plate owners only who are upset that this situation has arisen !
The Taxi trade is a business, driving a Taxi is business, buying a plate is business, renting a place is business, exploiting loopholes is business, nothing personal ! its all business !
Owners have exploited the same loophole that these six are now exploiting ! The threat has always been there. Greed wont allow them to buy cars and maintain them at their expense cos it wil eat into their profits on rents they charge from £150 to £250 per week. Anyone who has bought a plate has done so knowing the law and the risks involved. This threat has always been there as has the threat of deregulation ! its always been a gamble and a risk.

Some plate owners have become so greedy, that even under the threat of losing their plates, they still refuse to buy their own cars. Instead they want their rental drivers to commit fraud and launder money on their behalf, so that they can continue reaping the profits at the expense of rental drivers !!!! Are you all blind ? ? ?

How can it be theft ? The law, rules, regulations and licensing conditions are all on the side of ' the six '.

Licensing conditions will change because of this situation and maybe ' the six ' have the foresight to see this and are doing whats best for them and their famillies. Its business, just business !! Shame others did'nt have the bottle to take a risk to improve, not just their lives but the Taxi Trade in York as a whole.

A last thought for rental drivers driving their own cars that did'nt have the foresight or the bottle to do whats right ! Your plate owner WILL have to prove that he owns the vehicle to which his plate is attached 100%, he WILL have to maintain that vehicle at his/her expense, Therefore you WILL foot the bill for those expenses !! Rents may go up and cars may be double driven and you may be stuck with a car on finance parked on your drive and driving a cheap car prone to breakdown at any time !!! But !! Thats business, thats the taxi trade and thats your fault !!!!

I think it more realistic to believe it more your fault, your argument is rambling and non sensical I am glad to be on private hire sitting here watching the hackney trade self destruct

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CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Thanks for that Captain Cab, very interesting and could prove very useful in the future !

Have York council been sent a copy of this judgment????

The Council have a copy of this in fact they are using it as a bench mark, the Licensing and Regulatory Committee will decide on July 2nd at a meeting behind closed doors. This Committee is made up of 5 people, they are usually guided by the officers who have researched the case.
At these meetings anyone can usually attend and if you register to speak either for or against the proposal you are allowed 3 minutes, however due to the financial declarations with the parties, public and press are being denied entry.

I approached the council to look at

[b]Reigate and Banstead v Garrett[b] however they ignored this one for reasons which they would not declare

I'm sure that'll be raised if they're challenged, I'm surprised they didnt consider it though, even if they just took it and said they were considering it for platitudes sake?

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Totally different case ! In the case of the famous six from York, it is the ownership of the vehicle that is in question. These guys rented the plate only and put it on their own cars that they have paid for and maintained at their own expense. Therefore the 'plate owner' has committed fraud at the licensing stage by declaring that he was the owner of the vehicle, when in fact the driver owned the vehicle and as such the driver should be the Vehicle license holder. There is or was not a partnership betweeen plate owner and driver and only the'owners' name was on the License !!
These six have a choise to make ! Assist the plate owner in his fraudulent activities or make it right and legal ! They have chosen to make it right and legal !!!

whose name was the logbook in

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

The last time I saw so many inverted commas it was my mate Terry!!!!!!!

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

All log books are in drivers names as they own the cars, some are even on finance in the drivers names so cant be sold on anyway, and never could have been ! Besides, log book is not necessarily proof of ownership, they only state the 'keeper' of the vehicle.

You are forgetting about the drivers providing bills of sale to enable them to continue driving and make a living

What is right and legal about claiming something that another person has paid hard earned money for.

I'm not sure all this washing of dirty laundry in public will help keep restrictions.

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