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Well Dick, after reading your news story, it appears that some of your worries did not come true, cabs can be any colour, due to the Liverpool case, a WAV can now be any type from a TX E7 or even a diablo, or as Brum has, one of those all singing all dancing ones :D but even that could be under threat as the new equality bill that has just been passed does not state all hacks have to be a WAV, and we are awaiting the outcome of this, it could be 50% of the licenced fleet as some on here suggest, or a % per town or area
As for the station mafia, they no longer hold any power now that the line is back in government hands and any hack can pick up there for free, but drivers at the station are like lemmings one pays they all pay, more fool them.
The age of vehicles, this is a tricky one, your council is trying to improve the fleet of hack and PH, they should reduce the starting age to 3 years for all, after 5 years test twice a year, after 8 years 3 or 4 times a year, remember BP says age limits should not be imposed, as long as the vehicle passes the test, but there is nothing to stop the council adopting a starting age


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Ears1096 wrote:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/1536130.Cabbies____mixed_views_on_deregulation_moves/

I'll post this here as well then as Mr Jackson wants to de regulate


The picture on this article was about rat runs used by PH/ Hack in York
The deregulation article was after the press asked me to give a for and against view on deregulation but only printed the for argument, I think they had plenty of plate owners giving the against view protecting thier own intrest. (that is not a problem to me) In this world protect yourself first others second.
I have not given any of my views on colour ,age, Wavs or anything else
so carry on winding everthing up,

If it helps the wind up merchants
I think it is good to have all one colour, I think age resrictions should apply, but it is all in the application of these things that is the problem.

As for anything else, when you are prepared to pay my bills I will ask for your advice on what is best for me and my family.

Do not get me started on the station Junta,
Check out the contract
What the station says is right
What anyone else says is wrong
If you want to appeal anything we will bring in more junta from other stations to decide

We will see if the junta survives when EU policy is adopted

I will not be bullied into staying quiet to protect other peoples positions if you want to attack me carry on but I will have the right to reply

I am up for sensible arguments for and against but have no intrest in attacking people for holding a view I do not agree with :)


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"It should be deregulated and we should all be the same."

Not a popular view, but one I share.

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skippy41 wrote:
Well Dick, after reading your news story, it appears that some of your worries did not come true, cabs can be any colour, due to the Liverpool case, a WAV can now be any type from a TX E7 or even a diablo, or as Brum has, one of those all singing all dancing ones :D but even that could be under threat as the new equality bill that has just been passed does not state all hacks have to be a WAV, and we are awaiting the outcome of this, it could be 50% of the licenced fleet as some on here suggest, or a % per town or area
As for the station mafia, they no longer hold any power now that the line is back in government hands and any hack can pick up there for free, but drivers at the station are like lemmings one pays they all pay, more fool them.
The age of vehicles, this is a tricky one, your council is trying to improve the fleet of hack and PH, they should reduce the starting age to 3 years for all, after 5 years test twice a year, after 8 years 3 or 4 times a year, remember BP says age limits should not be imposed, as long as the vehicle passes the test, but there is nothing to stop the council adopting a starting age


skippy are you making up laws again?

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skippy41 wrote:
Well Dick, after reading your news story, it appears that some of your worries did not come true, cabs can be any colour, due to the Liverpool case, a WAV can now be any type from a TX E7 or even a diablo, or as Brum has, one of those all singing all dancing ones :D but even that could be under threat as the new equality bill that has just been passed does not state all hacks have to be a WAV, and we are awaiting the outcome of this, it could be 50% of the licenced fleet as some on here suggest, or a % per town or area
As for the station mafia, they no longer hold any power now that the line is back in government hands and any hack can pick up there for free, but drivers at the station are like lemmings one pays they all pay, more fool them.
The age of vehicles, this is a tricky one, your council is trying to improve the fleet of hack and PH, they should reduce the starting age to 3 years for all, after 5 years test twice a year, after 8 years 3 or 4 times a year, remember BP says age limits should not be imposed, as long as the vehicle passes the test, but there is nothing to stop the council adopting a starting age


Cabs in Nottingham can be any colour as long as it is green. fact

Cabs in Derby can be any colour as long as it is a very specific yellow. fact.

Cabs in the borders will soon enough be WAV. fact.

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well lets hope the council actually manage to arrive at some sort of decision which clears this matter up.
my personal view is that 1 single hackney plate should be "used " purely by the holder and not sold or rented / treated as a free investment vehicle - upon retirement or leaving the trade the plate returns to the council to be reissued.Multiple plates being issued to 1 person is clearly unworkable ie can 1 person drive 2 or more cars at once ?
so why allow them multiple plates.
the whole point of having plate and a licence is to provide a service to earn a living.
so rather than a few few people earning lots for very little by renting plates - drivers who actually want to work can do so without having to earn £hundreds before they start.

i accept this view may not be popular but we are in 2010 and outdated archaic practises like this should end.


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jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Well Dick, after reading your news story, it appears that some of your worries did not come true, cabs can be any colour, due to the Liverpool case, a WAV can now be any type from a TX E7 or even a diablo, or as Brum has, one of those all singing all dancing ones :D but even that could be under threat as the new equality bill that has just been passed does not state all hacks have to be a WAV, and we are awaiting the outcome of this, it could be 50% of the licenced fleet as some on here suggest, or a % per town or area
As for the station mafia, they no longer hold any power now that the line is back in government hands and any hack can pick up there for free, but drivers at the station are like lemmings one pays they all pay, more fool them.
The age of vehicles, this is a tricky one, your council is trying to improve the fleet of hack and PH, they should reduce the starting age to 3 years for all, after 5 years test twice a year, after 8 years 3 or 4 times a year, remember BP says age limits should not be imposed, as long as the vehicle passes the test, but there is nothing to stop the council adopting a starting age


Cabs in Nottingham can be any colour as long as it is green. fact

Cabs in Derby can be any colour as long as it is a very specific yellow. fact.

Cabs in the borders will soon enough be WAV. fact.


I take it you missed the York judgment on colour that stinky put up,
regarding the station :roll: :roll:
If cabs in the Borders all had to be wavs there would only be 10 of them for the whole area as the rest of us would quit hacks and go PH, then the council would be in the sheit as they need all types of cabs especially saloons for there contracts


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Sussex wrote:
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"It should be deregulated and we should all be the same."

Not a popular view, but one I share.
What :shock: Sussex we seem to be in agreement! The plates should be given out to who ever needs one.
The licenses should be regulated not the plates. The barons would then be out of a job. Living off the hard work of others. grr dont get me started on this one again. I have been a consistant protester of the regulation of plates and will continue, but again this must go hand in hand with the regulation of the licenses.
Most LA's dont get it right.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:25 am 
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eurosteve wrote:
well lets hope the council actually manage to arrive at some sort of decision which clears this matter up.
my personal view is that 1 single hackney plate should be "used " purely by the holder and not sold or rented / treated as a free investment vehicle - upon retirement or leaving the trade the plate returns to the council to be reissued.Multiple plates being issued to 1 person is clearly unworkable ie can 1 person drive 2 or more cars at once ?
so why allow them multiple plates.
the whole point of having plate and a licence is to provide a service to earn a living.
so rather than a few few people earning lots for very little by renting plates - drivers who actually want to work can do so without having to earn £hundreds before they start.

i accept this view may not be popular but we are in 2010 and outdated archaic practises like this should end.
Don't be to hard on yourself you have allies!


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Smoked Glass wrote:
eurosteve wrote:
well lets hope the council actually manage to arrive at some sort of decision which clears this matter up.
my personal view is that 1 single hackney plate should be "used " purely by the holder and not sold or rented / treated as a free investment vehicle - upon retirement or leaving the trade the plate returns to the council to be reissued.Multiple plates being issued to 1 person is clearly unworkable ie can 1 person drive 2 or more cars at once ?
so why allow them multiple plates.
the whole point of having plate and a licence is to provide a service to earn a living.
so rather than a few few people earning lots for very little by renting plates - drivers who actually want to work can do so without having to earn £hundreds before they start.

i accept this view may not be popular but we are in 2010 and outdated archaic practises like this should end.

Don't be to hard on yourself you have allies!

Yes you do have allies.

But IMO the only reasonable multi-ownership would be a company that provides licensed replacement vehicles in the event of a HC or PHV being off the road due to accident or serious mechanical failure resulting in that vehicle being off the road for say a week or more.

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I think some of you are missing the point here ! The Hackney vehicle license is a piece of paper with a name on ! The plate is a piece of plastic that goes on the vehicle owned by the person who has his/her name on the piece of paper, therefore whoever has their name on the piece of paper will get the piece of plastic to go on the back of his/her car, providing that is. that they own the vehicle that the piece of plastic is on or is going on, and that they can prove beyond doubt that they do actually own that particular vehicle. Vehicle ownership is the key here ! How simple is that ?????


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Oh ! and one other thing ! Is there any need to resort to name calling and putting others down ! we are all entitled to an opinion and thats the whole point of this site and the reason for anonomity via user names ! If you have anything personal or offensive to say then lets save it for the ranks where you can air your views in private and face to face and not hide behind a username ! Or ! just put your real name to your posts so that others can respond either on here or to your face ! So, avin sed that lets just stick to usernames and dont use any other names !!!! Anyone agree with that ????


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onerebeloffour wrote:
Vehicle ownership is the key here ! How simple is that ?????

So lets suppose that due to extarenous circumstances a vehicle is reposesed does the finance company then become a hackney proprietor?


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Could'nt answer that one 'thinker' but I should imagine the same would apply to any and all prorietors that find themselves in a position to have his vehicle repossessed, maybe you should throw that question at Taxi Licensing and let us all know. Its certainly something to 'think' about.


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the thinker wrote:
onerebeloffour wrote:
Vehicle ownership is the key here ! How simple is that ?????

So lets suppose that due to extarenous circumstances a vehicle is reposesed does the finance company then become a hackney proprietor?

No because the finance companies name isn't on the register. But they could be put on if required.

I believe something like that happens in Liverpool. :shock:

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