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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:35 pm 
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Well it's obvious , from what's been said.... that the driver and licence-holder have been giving false information to the council... colluded.... so the licence should be revoked. and neither of them should have it.... it should be reissued...


No Mr T thats wrong according to the drivers on here, only the owners have been lying, the drivers are doing whats honest and legal according to Steve.


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MR T wrote:
Well it's obvious , from what's been said.... that the driver and licence-holder have been giving false information to the council... colluded.... so the licence should be revoked. and neither of them should have it.... it should be reissued...


No Mr T thats wrong according to the drivers on here, only the owners have been lying, the drivers are doing whats honest and legal according to Steve.
It takes two to tango.... but we know that... don't we... :wink:

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I don't know why I'm bothering, but there's a world of difference between raising a loan for a plate and a vehicle.

For a start, the plates in question cost significantly more than even the most expensive vehicle.

And the bigger issue still is the nature of the asset that it's being secured against.

Ask a bank if they'll lend against a plate - no chance.
I would not either as anyone will soon be able to obtain one for the normal price. Then watch the sparks fly!


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No Mr T thats wrong according to the drivers on here, only the owners have been lying, the drivers are doing whats honest and legal according to Steve.

The hackney carriage register isn't being correctly filled in. That is an offence.

Both the owner and the driver knowingly knew a fraud was taking place.

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No Mr T thats wrong according to the drivers on here, only the owners have been lying, the drivers are doing whats honest and legal according to Steve.


It could be possible that even the council knew whats been going on but chose to turn a blind eye. The point is, that even at the threat of losing their vehicle license ie. When it came out that one person had already begun proceedings to claim his plate, SOME plate holders STILL did not want to buy a car and maintain it themselves, they merely wanted it to APPEAR as though they had bought the drivers car by creating a 'paper trail' from their account to the drivers !! Then they wanted the money back in cash, so still they would;nt own the car ! One of the four refused to partake in these illegal activities, and he is the one that is doing whats legal and whats right, despite advising plate owner to just buy his car. See theres more to it than some think !!


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No Mr T thats wrong according to the drivers on here, only the owners have been lying, the drivers are doing whats honest and legal according to Steve.


It could be possible that even the council knew whats been going on but chose to turn a blind eye. The point is, that even at the threat of losing their vehicle license ie. When it came out that one person had already begun proceedings to claim his plate, SOME plate holders STILL did not want to buy a car and maintain it themselves, they merely wanted it to APPEAR as though they had bought the drivers car by creating a 'paper trail' from their account to the drivers !! Then they wanted the money back in cash, so still they would;nt own the car ! One of the four refused to partake in these illegal activities, and he is the one that is doing whats legal and whats right, despite advising plate owner to just buy his car. See theres more to it than some think !!


Didn't he agree to buy your car, after he had reduced your rent by £40 a week, in fact the cheque for the value of your car was made out, waiting for you to collect but that was before the famous telephone conversation, or am I stating the obvious.


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No Mr T thats wrong according to the drivers on here, only the owners have been lying, the drivers are doing whats honest and legal according to Steve.


It could be possible that even the council knew whats been going on but chose to turn a blind eye. The point is, that even at the threat of losing their vehicle license ie. When it came out that one person had already begun proceedings to claim his plate, SOME plate holders STILL did not want to buy a car and maintain it themselves, they merely wanted it to APPEAR as though they had bought the drivers car by creating a 'paper trail' from their account to the drivers !! Then they wanted the money back in cash, so still they would;nt own the car ! One of the four refused to partake in these illegal activities, and he is the one that is doing whats legal and whats right, despite advising plate owner to just buy his car. See theres more to it than some think !!
I must be having a bad day..... from what you're saying.... I interpret it to mean that the owner and driver had already had an agreement whereby they provided the council with false information( jointly committing an offence) and then the driver suddenly sees God... and also makes a claim for the licence..... it's a bit like saying to the police officer when he arrests you.... for being drunk and disorderly.... I admit I'm was drunk but I wasn't disorderly......

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Didn't he agree to buy your car, after he had reduced your rent by £40 a week, in fact the cheque for the value of your car was made out, waiting for you to collect but that was before the famous telephone conversation, or am I stating the obvious.


Have posted 2 replies to this telling the full tale but not come up. In short, he wanted to put cheque in drivers bank and take it back in cash to create a paper trail from his account to drivers account.
He would'nt buy car at all did'nt want expense of buying and running a vehicle. Rent reductions were negotiated over three years and were not so easy to get from him.
You want the truth ask me, I got no reason to tell lies !


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This sure reads as if the majority of you are saying that you didn't care about the 'fraud' being committed until it looked like the driver would benefit from it! Why shouldn't the driver benefit? He/she has been running a vehicle, paying the fees, paying the plate holder etc for years - often to the tune of tens of thousands of pounds?

The council have allowed this to happen and I don't believe that anyone here is naive enough to think the council had no idea this is going on.

If a licence holder did not take steps to protect his 'investment' then surely any loss is his own fault? He benefitted from the loophole for years - so why the sympathy now that he has found out that loophole goes both ways? And all of this over something that at all times remained the property of the council anyway?

I wonder though what would happen for example if the council just put the name of the driver on the licence (because it was his vehicle) in addition to the existing plate holders? Would you still think the driver should continue to pay (when in essence he had been issued a licence by the council albeit in joint names)? Is this not a solution for those in York?


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This sure reads as if the majority of you are saying that you didn't care about the 'fraud' being committed until it looked like the driver would benefit from it! Why shouldn't the driver benefit?

No-one should benefit from a fraud.

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This sure reads as if the majority of you are saying that you didn't care about the 'fraud' being committed until it looked like the driver would benefit from it! Why shouldn't the driver benefit?

No-one should benefit from a fraud.


I agree - but surely if the majority here are suggesting that the status quo should be maintained, then they are by default saying that the only person who should benefit from a fraud is the plate holder?


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I agree - but surely if the majority here are suggesting that the status quo should be maintained, then they are by default saying that the only person who should benefit from a fraud is the plate holder?

I think the views offered are a mixed bag, with some thinking it's a bit rich the renter gaining a free plate, or the owner renting out something he doesn't own, or me thinking the whole system stinks and removing restrictions stops it happening.

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or me thinking the whole system stinks and removing restrictions stops it happening.


While others think anything goes so long as restrictions are preserved, and plate values are protected.
Not that they would condone fraudulent practices, eh CC?

I wonder just how wide spread this fraudulent activity actually is?
Does anyone think it's only a few people in York who are at it? :wink:

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or me thinking the whole system stinks and removing restrictions stops it happening.


While others think anything goes so long as restrictions are preserved, and plate values are protected.
Not that they would condone fraudulent practices, eh CC?

I wonder just how wide spread this fraudulent activity actually is?
Does anyone think it's only a few people in York who are at it? :wink:


I have made my views known if you actually wish to read them?

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Am I right in thinking.... that this case will be going to appeal ??.

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