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As I see it there are three different scenarios:

1 Restricted with equal conditions - all plates have the same value.

2 Restricted with unequal conditions - eg in Brighton, where some runs saloons, but others WAVs - here both plates have a value, but the WAV plate will be less because of the more onerous conditions.

3 De-restricted but with unequal conditions - eg Gateshead, where the saloons have a premium because they are less costly to run than the WAVs. But WAV plates have no value because they are unrestricted. So strictly speaking saloon plates are still restricted, so a useful description might be partial de-restriction.

Of course, Brighton, for example, could move from 2 to 3 by 'Gatesheading', but the saloon plates would still have a value.

In theory, there could be all types of different plates and values eg saloon without an age-rule, saloons with an age-rule, brand new WAVs, any WAV, but I don't know any actual cases offhand.

If the gov official thinks that Adur's policy of WAV de-limitation, but saloon restriction, doesn't fit into their catergory of de-restriction, then the list of councils they published is well out.

Not only that but many, if not all, the councils that have de-limited in the last few years could be open to a legal challenge because they haven't surveyed, nor will survey saloon demand.

You also have to wonder why the gov advised councils to make all new plates WAVs. And one wonders what the gov will say to the likes of Adur who have no plans whatsoever to repond to the Action Plan.

I think the gov should think twice before they open that can of worms.

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JD

A couple of corrections:

Manchester has 854 plates and

Stockport plates are worth 18k as I was offered one not long back.

YORK PLATE VALUES WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD ARE
£40000 FOR SALOON 150 OF AND
£27000 FOR WAVs 8 OF
TOTAL £621600

Spot on Cheshire, ten out ten.



I'll check this out tonight but thanx for the correction. I took the Manchester figures off the top of my head they were always going to be substantiated which they were today when I phoned licensing.

Thanks again.

Best wishes

JD

Good information agabbycabbie. Thank you very much. All I have to do now is find a way of balancing the two different plate values. I'll have to put in a memo regarding the differentials.

Best wishes

JD

I got 20 and 22 last night. I think the best bet is to go right down the middle and say 20.

Best wishes

JD

Yes you are right, it is an area fraught with difficulty but we are not going to let that stop us are we? lol

We can but try, it has never been done before so it's a challenge. I suppose my phone bill will take a hammering but its only money as Mr. Cummings might say, after he gets his azz kicked by the appeal court of course. lol

You are right I'm going to have to watch out for these zoned areas. Any idea how many there are on that list? I'm going to have to put Calderdale back on the list because I understand Halifax is part of the zoned area of Calderdale and as we know, Halifax is still restricted.

At the end of the day, every erroneous sample will be rechecked so I can only give it my best shot.

Thanx for the advice.

Best wishes

JD

John.

its more than fraught with difficulties, for a start you cannot buy a licence unless its with a vehicle.

as far as values are concerned zones where there is no limit by number could have a value, depends on how much buisness comes with it!

I think it's a great idea, and as long as people know that the plate value is based on the average vehicle, be it saloon or WAV, then it will be quite good to see where all the un-met demand really is.

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Not a clue how many John, I just know that an Annexe in the OFT report mentioned Sunderland and Calderdale.

If the DfT stats were compiled on a consistent basis then it might be possible to tell from that which LAs are zoned, but the stats aren't.

For example, the last three sets show Calderdale as:

2000 Taxis 66 maximum 66
2002 Taxis 66 maximum 37
2004 Taxis 65 maximum 65

Presumably the middle one is the accurate one - the 37 relates to the Halifax zone, and the other 29 relate to the other unrestricted zones.

Funny that the total for Calderdale barely changes though - if most of it is unrestricted then it might be expected that the number might vary more than it has, but maybe not.

Aye made me laugh Hold on I'll just get it out me wallet

Calderdale although lifted restrictions in 6 zones as I have said here b4 the trade could not get suitable vehicles through the testing proceadure.

there have been changes in transport who advise licensing, 2004 has shown a significant rise, but by no means to stupid proportions.

next year will show a bigger rise,and its nice to see new vehicles comming through, already the outer zones have more wheelchair accessible vehicles than Halifax, and are showing the way.

it will not be too long before Halifax demands a taxi service to the service levels of the outer areas.

Halifax once the superior zone is now lagging behind in service delivery and image and its sad to see.

A taxi plate is now for sale in Ripponden and Hepton, area of Calderdale at £10,000 for quick sale, this taxi could not survive on rank work alone.

a further 2 for Sowerby Bridge area for sale at between £15,000 and £17,000, both restriction lifted areas.

it remains to be sean if they will achieve a sale at these levels, personaly I wouldnt touch them with a bargepole.

a WA second hand at £8,000 will get an application to the local radio curcuit
would almost certainly be accepted.

Is that Cab and plate and isn't this area restriction free?

Best wishes

JD