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I agree.

I agree also.

I agree CC, I'm glad that you see it the same way.

The Skull and I are not interested in leading any charge up the hill.

What we're about is highlighting that councillors, meddling in our commercial affairs, are little more than ordinary guys, harnessed by an autocratic, bully boy political bureaucracy, whose egos are artificially inflated, who have a self perception of their worth far in excess of reason or reality and who zealously exercise draconian power because it satisfies their illusion.

I have the luxury of being able to call them scumbags - despicable and contemptible - precisely because I have no ambitions to lead any charge up the hill. I don't have to rely on the shrinking violet bewildered herd for support.

This places us right at the foot of the food chain. A previous poster stated that they would prefer to mount any support structure through an existing organisation. But these organisations are PART OF THE PROBLEM. In pursuit of their own illusions of "businessman" grandeur they are not interested in us, because as far as they concerned they are above us in the food chain.

TDO needs to now mature. It needs to evolve from a talking shop where people can let off steam into a catalyst for wresting control of our trade from the petty bureaucrats and politicians playing control freak with our lives.

The cases of abuse being highlighted are are largely irrelevant. When these matters are resolved there will be another 20, or 30, or 50 in another council. All with the aim of keeping our nose to their abusive grindstone.

Councils need to be reined in. Our working lives are difficult because of the mess they've made of the economy with their interfering and failure to regulate the guilty.

A tenner a month would allow us to choose any battleground to get the victory which would say to councils ....

STOP!!! YOU'RE NOT ON!!!

We could develop a real working relationship in a legal action heartbeat.

One battleground ... we would all benefit !!!!!!

I am warming to the idea and would certainly be prepared to put my money in if it was going to improve the taxi trade and stop lo from taken the [edited by admin].
What i find in Dundee is that the councilors do not stand up to the paid employees ie support services, solicitors, chief exec.Its these people i would really like to take to task for making an absolute mess of the trade.
If this was a serious solution i would lobby the Dundee taxi trade to sign up.
The only problem i see is which council would we get stuck into first,after all there is a large number who need there arses kicked

You still not got through your skull after many attempts to tell you I have no plate. I rent jut like you and what's more, I don't want a plate.

Anyway, why not use your American based website to put on a paypal section

I have to disagree with you about the Government being out of control, they have a very difficult time in front of them with major decisions that not everybody will like, they will also made mistakes and that is for sure, if the MPs and leaders of the previous government were to stand trial for their gross mishandling of this country's finances, I don't think any of them would see the light of day again, this coalition will have to give and take with each other and seriously think before implementing anything .. But one thing is for sure... the next few years are going to be extremely difficult.
It is really relatively easy to counter act licensing officers.... all it takes is being organised and having the right people representing the trade, unfortunately from past experience the trade would rather have somebody with an over-inflated ego that bangs his fists on the table and says no no no to every change...... why you might say.... simple they don't have to pay him.....
I would never dream of telling you to stop fighting... But with Jim on your side.... you could well be doomed to failure......

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

You mean they can vote?

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IDFIMH

Now thats a quote worth replaying

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I completely disagree.

Its refreshing to see the edinburgh two actually discuss something we all agree with, and I applaud them for it.

Its a more or less known fact that a good number councils are led by LO's who want nothing more than an easy life, they crave power, in many respects they are worse than the councillors, who admittedly are a pretty poor bunch.

As if councillors didnt have enough contempt for the taxi trade......they delegate their powers to a bunch of people who despise us even more.

Dare I mention the corporate complaints made in Merseyside recently about the lack of action / stupid decisions made?

I am fast coming to the conclusion if we are to have any chance at all, we need to be governed by professionals, not licensing departments who see us as a hinderance.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I am not quite sure what it is you disagree with... but then that is not unusual..... if you think somebody ranting and raging in a council chamber gives an advantage to your argument... then I can assure you it doesn't..... all it does is put a smile on the licensing officers face as he sees the Councillors turning against you.... in reality you have shot yourself in the foot ... not a very clever move...... corporate complaint is an extremely useful tool..... I wonder how many other association's take the fight straight to their faces and fight them with their own weapons... courts and lawyers are time-consuming and expensive.. if you win you lose... if you lose they win.... they use your money to fight you in court.... I much prefer to educate the Councillors whom from my own experience do not like being lied to by council employees..... but what do I know....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Are you mad? This is about supporting guys who have suffered as a consequence of their council abusing its powers. It has nothing to do with ranting and raging in council Chambers.

All I am asking for is, TDO to provide the facility to lend these guys some practical support.

This means that any individual or group that has fallen foul of their council, can be supported collectively by their colleagues, throughout the country, if they so choose.

These councils are shooting fish in a barrel. They have to be stopped. TDO, could be the mechanism to lend some real weight to their plight.

Do the math, TDO has nearly 2000 members, and how many more might become interested if they thought they could cause a change in the way councils treat cabbies?

The guys in Ashfield are just the tip of the sword, with the right support to wield that sword, councils abusing their powers could be stopped in their tracks. Everyone stands to benefit.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

When council's like Ashifield, have gotten way out of control, they deserve a bloody nose in court. We are well passed the committee stage when that happens.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

What about templates, for example, that would allow drivers without any legal training to embark on launching there own action ? I would be willing to put something together

I have always believed that we are the machine and, we should have total control of the Trade and, got to hand it to Gary, his heart is in the right place and he don't speak with forked tongue so ! Yeh. i'm all for it so, hopefully the National Trade can pull together as one unit and tell those responsible, WE AIN'T TAKING IT ANYMORE......

That's more like it lads, but we need to be clear about what's went down here.

The councillors in Ashfield didn't just make a poor decision. They were making a statement. That all cabbies are shi*e and not just in Ashfield. “Cabby's deserve no respect whatsoever, they are the shi* on our shoes and we will do what we like”.

Councillors up and down the country will be [edited by admin] themselves laughing about this, and why not?

If we do nothing to change how they think, then they are right, you deserve no respect, simply because you haven't earned it.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"