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If the travelling public has less disposable income and is already cutting back on spending. How does an increase in tariff actually translate into a financial benefit for the taxi driver?
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Not just a rise but the proposal is to restructure the whole thing.

So the flagfall goes up from £2.40 to £3.00, but the distance increases from 704 yards to 1,204 yards.

The 20p increments will apply for each 233 yards rather than 250, so running mile increases from £1.41 to £1.51.

The council says the average rise under the restructuring would be 7%.

The scheme was proposed by the DTA, and the licensing committee have approved it, so it will now be advertised.

A 7% increase is bad enough in the current climate, but a 60p increase in the flagfall and £3.00 showing on the meter at kick off is suicide ](*,)

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£3.00 showing on the meter at kick off is suicide ](*,)


That's the bit everyone will notice.

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What's the difference in tariff between the HC and PH?

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What's the difference in tariff between the HC and PH?


Scottish PH (those with meters) tariffs are set by the LA and are usually the same as Taxis (HC). Dundee is probably like this.

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What's the difference in tariff between the HC and PH?


Scottish PH (those with meters) tariffs are set by the LA and are usually the same as Taxis (HC). Dundee is probably like this.


Wow that's a really weird way of running a private company having somebody else telling you what you can charge :? What about those that don't have meters?

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Same tarriff for PH and Hack..all vehicles must have meter installed and calibrated accordingly.....


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Same tarriff for PH and Hack..all vehicles must have meter installed and calibrated accordingly.....


So where's the competition in that? Is it the norm for the PH to charge less than the meter rate?

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Same tarriff for PH and Hack..all vehicles must have meter installed and calibrated accordingly.....


So where's the competition in that? Is it the norm for the PH to charge less than the meter rate?


The 1982 act says, that if a meter is fitted it must be calibrated and set and sealed to the council rate, and that is the maximum that can be charged drivers are free to charge less if they wish to


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So where's the competition in that? Is it the norm for the PH to charge less than the meter rate?


Time for a game o snakes n ladders..........go back 13 spaces!!!!


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toots wrote:
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toots wrote:
What's the difference in tariff between the HC and PH?


Scottish PH (those with meters) tariffs are set by the LA and are usually the same as Taxis (HC). Dundee is probably like this.


Wow that's a really weird way of running a private company having somebody else telling you what you can charge :? What about those that don't have meters?


Remember, under the 1982 act, PH in Scotland can also accept their own bookings. Unlike E&W, no separate operator licence is required.
So effectively, every Taxi and PH up here is a separate business and if left to their own devices, all could have different meter tariffs within the same circuit.

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Same tarriff for PH and Hack..all vehicles must have meter installed and calibrated accordingly.....


So where's the competition in that? Is it the norm for the PH to charge less than the meter rate?
It's not normal here, can't speak for the rest of the country. Taxis and PH usually work the same circuits in Aberdeen so different rates would cause problems.
TBH, I don't think anyone wants a price war.

That said, EPH in Edinburgh recently applied to have their tariff reduced by 30% and I think it was granted. Maybe some of the Edinburgh guys can tell us what affect it has had, if any?

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gusmac wrote:
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tx_op wrote:
Same tarriff for PH and Hack..all vehicles must have meter installed and calibrated accordingly.....


So where's the competition in that? Is it the norm for the PH to charge less than the meter rate?
It's not normal here, can't speak for the rest of the country. Taxis and PH usually work the same circuits in Aberdeen so different rates would cause problems.
TBH, I don't think anyone wants a price war.

That said, EPH in Edinburgh recently applied to have their tariff reduced by 30% and I think it was granted. Maybe some of the Edinburgh guys can tell us what affect it has had, if any?


You get what you pay for, that is why ECPH charge less. Has it affected the Hacks........NOT ONE LITTLE BIT!


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gusmac wrote:
toots wrote:
tx_op wrote:
Same tarriff for PH and Hack..all vehicles must have meter installed and calibrated accordingly.....


So where's the competition in that? Is it the norm for the PH to charge less than the meter rate?
It's not normal here, can't speak for the rest of the country. Taxis and PH usually work the same circuits in Aberdeen so different rates would cause problems.
TBH, I don't think anyone wants a price war.

That said, EPH in Edinburgh recently applied to have their tariff reduced by 30% and I think it was granted. Maybe some of the Edinburgh guys can tell us what affect it has had, if any?


You get what you pay for, that is why ECPH charge less. Has it affected the Hacks........NOT ONE LITTLE BIT!


Cleggy, you live in a dream world. I know for a fact ECPH was taking almost 1000 jobs a week over the festival, out of your little deal at the Airport. They also send the [edited by admin] they don't want up to your rank.

There might have been an increase in work over the last four weeks, but now it's heading to the floor.

Oh and Cleggy, you and Lisa are hardly typical taxi operators. You might be a good combination, but husband and wife both out earning with nothing else to spend your money on?

Everything is relative but for most folks, they can't just think about themselves.

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gusmac wrote:
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tx_op wrote:
Same tarriff for PH and Hack..all vehicles must have meter installed and calibrated accordingly.....


So where's the competition in that? Is it the norm for the PH to charge less than the meter rate?
It's not normal here, can't speak for the rest of the country. Taxis and PH usually work the same circuits in Aberdeen so different rates would cause problems.
TBH, I don't think anyone wants a price war.

That said, EPH in Edinburgh recently applied to have their tariff reduced by 30% and I think it was granted. Maybe some of the Edinburgh guys can tell us what affect it has had, if any?


The Ph is making inroads into the hack work but the recession is damaging us more. The forthcoming double dip recession and subsequent depression will finish a lot of guys off.

There will always be a taxi trade, but it won't be anything like it is now. You can consider the last two years as signalling the end of good times. The worst is yet to come. :-|

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