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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:08 am 
Keep up the good work Ged and good luck mate.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:06 pm 
gedmay wrote:
The commissioners have put back the date to 14th January.
We are getting mixed messages. initially we were told that it was because there aws a police prosecution pending but this info was later rescinded.
Ah well it gives us something to look forward to in the New Year.
Ged


January the 14th?
getting like a [edited by admin] take
no redundancies prior to christmas?


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January the 14th?
getting like a [edited by admin] take
no redundancies prior to christmas?

Bah humbug, springs to mind !!! :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 3:15 am 
Sussex wrote:
Yorkie wrote:
January the 14th?
getting like a [edited by admin] take
no redundancies prior to christmas?

Bah humbug, springs to mind !!! :shock:


dont follow you , put down the port and say what you mean

its not usual for you to be so backward in comming forward.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:28 am 
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a wonderful christmas message Mick,
enjoy your winterfest,

as for assumptions they are fair and widely held,
coincidence given your location, never mentioned Sunderland b4

oh and you loose it like Mick does!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:13 pm 
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the knock out blow that this company deserves.


Why is it you HC guys go on moaning and groaning about limos and non licenced vehicles.
Here is a company that IS licenced (but not the way it suits you) who do provide 24 hr cover, who do have accessible vehicles, a company that does not operate old bangers and does have a first class maintenance history with the TC.
I can well understand why you would want them out but I feel your real argument is with the airport auth; just going after who can pay the most.

My vehicles are properly licenced as are my drivers, vehicles have correct markings yet I still get no end of hassle from wardens especially at T3 where there is no proper parking/waiting zone as at T1 & T2.
Aiportcarz vehicle picking just in front of me and not in the "marked area" was totally ignored by wardens, that situation stinks!!.

I agree with most postings that all vehicles should be licenced but we cannot then complain if that particular licence does not suit us. There is still plenty of business at Manchester for everyone. Why not try being the BEST in your field, repeat business really is profitable.


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the knock out blow that this company deserves.


My vehicles are properly licenced as are my drivers, vehicles have correct markings yet I still get no end of hassle from wardens especially at T3 where there is no proper parking/waiting zone as at T1 & T2.
Aiportcarz vehicle picking just in front of me and not in the "marked area" was totally ignored by wardens, that situation stinks!!.


Everyone gets hassle from the Airport wardens if you break the parking rules, especially at T3, Even Cabs. What firm did you say you represent?

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Tulsablue wrote:
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the knock out blow that this company deserves.


Why is it you HC guys go on moaning and groaning about limos and non licenced vehicles.
Here is a company that IS licenced (but not the way it suits you) who do provide 24 hr cover, who do have accessible vehicles, a company that does not operate old bangers and does have a first class maintenance history with the TC.
I can well understand why you would want them out but I feel your real argument is with the airport auth; just going after who can pay the most.

My vehicles are properly licenced as are my drivers, vehicles have correct markings yet I still get no end of hassle from wardens especially at T3 where there is no proper parking/waiting zone as at T1 & T2.
Aiportcarz vehicle picking just in front of me and not in the "marked area" was totally ignored by wardens, that situation stinks!!.

I agree with most postings that all vehicles should be licenced but we cannot then complain if that particular licence does not suit us. There is still plenty of business at Manchester for everyone. Why not try being the BEST in your field, repeat business really is profitable.



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there is a dispute as to whether they are in fact properly licensed or not for the job they do

this point is important, and why they are waiting for the traffic commission ruling, there must be doubt or the judgement would not be taking so long

traffic commission by the way are only interested in licenses for single fares as on bus routes

please keep up with the debate, and try to understand this is not alone an airport issue.

whether they are licensed correctly or not they are not taxibuses in the way intended by the law.


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Yorkie wrote:

whether they are licensed correctly or not they are not taxibuses in the way intended by the law.


But then again, not many forms of transport that call themselves Taxibuses are following the letter of the law. However, i'm sure a court of law would have no doubt in seeing it the same was as you put it. The only problem we have is that no one is prepared to go that far.

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Why is it you HC guys go on moaning and groaning about limos and non licenced vehicles.

Well I'm not yet a HC guy, but the reason I go on moaning and groaning is that I believe these vehicles to be un-safe, cos if they were safe, then they would be licensed.

As for the drivers, well there is a good reason why drivers are licensed, it's called customer safety.

Thus I treat all vehicles that are not licensed with a great deal of contempt, cos if they are all pukka, then why the f*** don't they get licensed?

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Tulsablue wrote:
Why is it you HC guys go on moaning and groaning about limos and non licenced vehicles.


Not just HC complaining, but why not?

There is plenty of rule-breaking in the trade, and even when the scenario is something of a grey area (as seems to be the case at Manchester) then why shouldn't things be clarified?

And even when things are legal, why shouldn't people ask for change? If you had your way then presumably laws and rules would be set in stone, and we wouldn't need councils and Parliaments and things like that, in fact we'd still be stuck in pre-history, so we wouldn't need them anyway!

Then you say that when things aren't going your way as regards the rules then 'it stinks'!

We had a not dissimilar debate on here before with you, in the fire engines thread:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=175


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Tulsa,
I do not know where you operate from, less than 24 hours away?
Your letter is a little puzzling, you complain that we complain, then you complain about the very thing that we complain about. ( thats 4 complaints in one sentence, not bad eh?)
This firm is being assisted to act on the edge of the law, does your licensing authority allow grey areas for you to ply your trade? do they allow your competitors to bend the rules and if they did would you complain or think that it was O.K because they were licenced?
You have hit the nail on the head when you finger the Traffic Wardens for looking the other way, whom do you think issued that directive? Read my letters and you will see that what we want is a judgement one or the other, are they legal or not.
Ged

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Drat,
I think I may have done that 24 hours gag before, if I have sorry :oops:
Ged

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Don't worry Ged, if you did, I can't remember it.

But maybe it was because of the quality of the joke :lol:

Actually, it wasn't that bad, at least compared to mine :D


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ok guys here we go again missing the point, its probaly my fault not putting into words what I'm trying to get at.

If someone has a `100 wheeled 100 foot long dark tinted windows centre driver position twin swimming pool, open topped sky blue pink limo and the PUBLIC want!!!!! to hire it, it is up to the authorities to licence it and not just shrug their shoulders and leave everyone in limbo.

The comment from sussex is off the mark because we are not talking about some back street banger operating outfit.

I do think we should not lose sight of what the aim of the hearing was about. In three other cases this situation has been to three other TC's back to Europe and just about everywhere else and no one in authority will make a judgement on the very grey area where the cross over between taxi and bus happens. What I feel is far more important is to ensure that everyone is at least licenced in some way because at the moment there are a great many vehicles operating without any licencing regime at all. I think I read in one of Ged's posting that we needc to win the little skirmishes first, that is right but lets remember that there are a few ****heads in both our trades who ride roughshod over rules and regs and seem to consistently get away with it.

All for now back to work, long way back to Tulsa might take 23.5 hrs (in new turbo assist Merc)


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