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I take it you don't have the same rules down there as we do in Scotland.
If a meter is fitted to a PH, it must be set to the councils tariff, or below, and must be tested and sealed, but cannot be set above the hack rate


Us?.....not sure, i think meter rates must be notified to the LA and displayed, if in a PHV

my biggest gripe about meter rates in an 8 seater hack was having to charge standard rate when they would have needed 2 cars otherwise.....


Personally I don't think they should be able to charge more just because it saves you from needing more vehicles. You should only be charged more if it costs more to run with 5-8 passengers than 4.


If that is the case, then no one would run a bigger vehicle. Also the bigger vehicles DO cost more to run.

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I take it you don't have the same rules down there as we do in Scotland.
If a meter is fitted to a PH, it must be set to the councils tariff, or below, and must be tested and sealed, but cannot be set above the hack rate

Didn't the mob in Edinburgh challenge that recently? :?

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toots wrote:
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I take it you don't have the same rules down there as we do in Scotland.
If a meter is fitted to a PH, it must be set to the councils tariff, or below, and must be tested and sealed, but cannot be set above the hack rate


Us?.....not sure, i think meter rates must be notified to the LA and displayed, if in a PHV

my biggest gripe about meter rates in an 8 seater hack was having to charge standard rate when they would have needed 2 cars otherwise.....


Personally I don't think they should be able to charge more just because it saves you from needing more vehicles. You should only be charged more if it costs more to run with 5-8 passengers than 4.


If that is the case, then no one would run a bigger vehicle. Also the bigger vehicles DO cost more to run.


If that be the case why don't they cost more on the tariff if there is only one person in the cab which is more often than having above 4. The costs of running the vehicle are the same with 1 passenger as is with 8 or at best the difference is negligible

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skippy41 wrote:
I take it you don't have the same rules down there as we do in Scotland.
If a meter is fitted to a PH, it must be set to the councils tariff, or below, and must be tested and sealed, but cannot be set above the hack rate


Us?.....not sure, i think meter rates must be notified to the LA and displayed, if in a PHV

my biggest gripe about meter rates in an 8 seater hack was having to charge standard rate when they would have needed 2 cars otherwise.....


Personally I don't think they should be able to charge more just because it saves you from needing more vehicles. You should only be charged more if it costs more to run with 5-8 passengers than 4.


If that is the case, then no one would run a bigger vehicle. Also the bigger vehicles DO cost more to run.


If that be the case why don't they cost more on the tariff if there is only one person in the cab which is more often than having above 4. The costs of running the vehicle are the same with 1 passenger as is with 8 or at best the difference is negligible


The fuel consumption is far greater with 8 passengers than with one passenger, especially if they are my size. The differential in my manor is 50% higher fares for 5 or more passengers.

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I take it you don't have the same rules down there as we do in Scotland.
If a meter is fitted to a PH, it must be set to the councils tariff, or below, and must be tested and sealed, but cannot be set above the hack rate

Didn't the mob in Edinburgh challenge that recently? :?


Think they challenged the rule that they must charge the same as hacks. Their meters are set to 30% less now.
AFAIK they still can't charge more than the council rate.

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Whilst I didnt run +4 seaters a few others did (HC+meter) and there was ONLY rate 1 (days) and rate 2 (00.00 - 06.00 and bank holidays) i know the meters did get put on rate 2 when the vehicles were full before midnight, it was illegal but......................


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The fuel consumption is far greater with 8 passengers than with one passenger, especially if they are my size. The differential in my manor is 50% higher fares for 5 or more passengers.


In general there isn't a great deal more fuel used for 5 passengers than there is for 4. Well I wouldn't say there is an increase of 50% more fuel used. I appreciate weight has something to do with fuel consumption but we are only talking stones here not tons

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The fuel consumption is far greater with 8 passengers than with one passenger, especially if they are my size. The differential in my manor is 50% higher fares for 5 or more passengers.


In general there isn't a great deal more fuel used for 5 passengers than there is for 4. Well I wouldn't say there is an increase of 50% more fuel used. I appreciate weight has something to do with fuel consumption but we are only talking stones here not tons


With respect, how many vehicles that carry more than 4 do you run?

My Renault Meganes, which are 4 passenger vehicles return just over 60 MPG. My Ford Galaxy which is a 6 passenger vehicle does less than 40 MPG when fully laden.

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The fuel consumption is far greater with 8 passengers than with one passenger, especially if they are my size. The differential in my manor is 50% higher fares for 5 or more passengers.


In general there isn't a great deal more fuel used for 5 passengers than there is for 4. Well I wouldn't say there is an increase of 50% more fuel used. I appreciate weight has something to do with fuel consumption but we are only talking stones here not tons


Toots it is not just the fuel cost which would be more because of the extra weight, it is more to the point that we pay £20/30K more to purchase a 6/7/8 seater than it would cost to purchase a 4 seater.

A decent return should be had.


Also part of an article with comment from Mr Owen of "Dragon Taxis"

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Even though the council has no control over private hire fares, Mr Owen said if a customer phones for a four-seat vehicle, they are charged the Cardiff council rate.


What he is saying is that if you order anything over a 4 seater..........then they charge more than the council rate..........and that I know is a fact.

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The leader of the drivers might be a good guy, but he needs to start fighting for things he can achieve, not pi** around on piffle like this.



You have got hold of the wrong end of the stick. As things stand the punter gets into a vehicle and gets differing meter fares all due to P.H companies who can if they wish charge and have the meter set to what they like.

To take the confusion out of this he asked for meters to be taken out of P.H cars, when in actual fact he should have asked for all to be the same. The hacks who work for these companies will get told to charge the same as a P.H 6/7 seater if both are going to the same multi job........illegal (yes I know).

But! just like the P.H who will pick up off of the street we also have Hacks who will twist the rules to make a few bucks. What I do not like is the bad publicity that we receive when in actual fact we are the cheapest around out of all the companies.

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