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Yes Geoff but fares in Brighton were only average before the formula was introduced, and premiums have always been high.

well then the formula is wrong,
if Nige wrote it, we can see why, what has property, prices got to do with taxi fares?

there is a slight connection but not nearly as much as Nige is claiming.

Tariff one.

Birmingham flag fall 1.50 first mile 3.10
Manchester flag fall 1.80 first mile 2.80
London flag fall 2.00 first mile 3.60
Brighton flag fall 2.30 first mile 3.50

Anyone got any more flag falls to compare?

Best wishes

JD

Brighton are saying there are 70 Authorities who have a higher night tariff than them. I don't know how they come to that conlusion because I don't know of any data available that shows tariffs above tariff one. Do you or anyone else know of any data that has been published regarding tariff 2, 3 and perhaps 4?

I think Brighton are confusing tariff one in the private hire monthly tables with tariff 2 and 3.

Any feedback on this would be helpful.

Best wishes

JD

Birmingham is a misprint it should read 3.50 but private hire monthly have it down as 3.60 I think, so they will probably be right.

They have a real curious Tariff in Birmingam. 1.50 for the first 91.43 yards, 20p per 91.43 yards up to 640 yards and 20p per 251 yards after that. Somebody work that out for the first mile you might come to a different figure than I did lol.

Best wishes

JD

I think they are going on the basis of your mate Roland in PHM.
http://www.phtm.co.uk/media/1104928200.pdf

On the basis of tariif two, both PHM, and Brighton Council seem to have forgot about the £1 Friday and Saturday surcharge.

So where it says tariff 2 = £5.90 for two miles, well it happens to be £6.90 for two miles, with a flag of £4.10.

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So yet again we are deemed for being in the wrong for pointing out that the T&G's view was bollocks.

You even seem to be agreeing with us!!

What a bizarre attitude.

It's easily rectified - tell the T&G to start telling the truth for a change

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Good point Nidge - I suspect we all agree that Brighton fares should be higher than Manchester, but perhaps not to the extent they seem to be.

Sure property prices are a lot higher, but things like fuel, vehicles, wages, and non-property costs of living aren't likely to be hugely higher.

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Well it would be interesting to compares the growth in premiums and fares; I suspect the two will show a link.

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Thanx a lot for that sussex.

Best wishes

JD

Yes, the Brighton night tariff certainly isn't as high as the day one, even including the £1 weekend tariff unearthed by Sussex - imagine B&H not mentioning that one

And they've also dropped down to ninth in the PHM tables - whatever next?

But, as regards the night tarrif, I suspect most of the high ones are more rural authorities which often get higher tariffs because of the dead mileage argument.

Also, the tariffs shown for rate two are the official ones, and I would imagine that many are rarely, if ever charged at that actual rate, whereas there's probably not much discounting in Brighton.

Have you checked out some of those rate 2 tarrifs?

Purbeck £9.60 for two miles, Isle of Wight flagfall £6.00. There are a good few flagfalls over £4.00.

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Looking at the PHM tables, there always seems to be a lot more variation on the night tariffs rather than the day ones, so it's perhaps slightly misleading to use the day tariffs to order the tables, perhaps an average of the two would be provide a better picture.

But comparing fares between locations can be highly misleading anyway, since there are so many variables that can change, for example premiums for extra people can make a hefty difference, whereas in some locations there are no such extras.

Another example from the Brighton card is the 80p for Sunday daytime - I suspect that's quite unusual.

http://www.streamlinetaxis202020.com/TaxiFares.html

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This table you posted has Brighton the ninth highest, if the extra pound was added on, would it not make them the highest in the England and wales, for the night time tariff 2?

Best wishes

JD

But also the cost of living is higher it's not just the house prices.

I've just had a chat with someone and they pointed out something that goes along with everything we hear about B&H.

When they calculate the fares, they need the average wage for the local area.

So do they use the lower average wage of B&H in their calculations? Or do they use the higher average wage for the South East region in their calculations?

No prises for this one methinks.

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