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If taxis had grown according to market conditions there would have been less opportunity for PH, and we would be controlling the market through our tariff, not theirs.


There is no evidence to show that ph would not have grown if the area was de-restricted. It continues to grow here and we are de-restricted. It can't even been blamed on the fact that taxis here have to do a knowledge or other type of test, we all do the same and ph continues to grow. The only difference here now than before de-restriction is that we have taxis working on ph systems cos there isn't enough work on the road. Is that the kind of thing you want for Edinburgh, instead of paying rent for a vehicle that is maintained by somebody else you want to have HP costs, maintenance costs, a whole lot more competition, more regulation and the cost of rental for a radio from PH company :? I ask this because I can't see what else you'll gain that you don't already have


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It's about choice. And the rightt to make it.

Your situaion is down to YOU. You've made the bed your lying in.


You had a choice and you choose to work in a restricted trade, if you wanted to work in a de-restricted trade you should have gone PH you coud have all the competition you wanted then. A truely de-restricted trade would see the end of the divide between HC and PH 'taxis'. No restriction on either side and mixed fleets to suit all customer needs and wants. That way market forces would control the tariff not either side of the trade.

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Now, if you were truly proactive and adopted modern commercial techniques yo could shape a better future for yourself.

I take it you're talking in loose terms and not to me specifically?

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As for having to join a PH network, the problem is that customers have been persuaed to fone for a hire. Technology is encouraging this, and will do even more in the future.

In a city conurbation however there is still scope for customers to step out of their brownstone and hail a cab on the street. Or at one of a number of key ranking points. It's not so imperative to be on a circuit


If I'm reading this right you believe that because Edinburgh is a city people would rather go outside and flag a taxi than sit in the warmeth and phone one? I believe however that because Edinburgh is a city people who are already out will flag a taxi to go home, but, how did they get there in the first place? I think you'll find they either used buses and trains or they phoned for taxi/ph from the warmeth of their home. You're right about one thing tho technology is changing the way people travel and use the services available to them


Toots, you are a head case. You and Dougie, should get it together. Saying that I am starting to think you might have been separated at birth. There must be a genetic link in there somewhere, an alien abduction perhaps.


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Toots, you are a head case. You and Dougie, should get it together. Saying that I am starting to think you might have been separated at birth. There must be a genetic link in there somewhere, an alien abduction perhaps.


Oh shock, surprise my opinion isn't the same as Jabars. Your point?

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Toots, you are a head case. You and Dougie, should get it together. Saying that I am starting to think you might have been separated at birth. There must be a genetic link in there somewhere, an alien abduction perhaps.


Oh shock, surprise my opinion isn't the same as Jabars. Your point?


I've cracked it. Head case Toots and head case Dougie are Corsican twins. Spilled out of the regular inter-galactic intellgence mission by extra=terrestrial intelligencies who recognise there is no understanding of the wit of mankind by trawling the inner recesses of what passes as minds of the Toots/Dougie combine.

Toots can be the right toots and dougie can be the left toots. A real couple of toots :wink:

Isn't it amazing that even in this preposterous scenario Dougie is still not right? :lol:

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Private Reggie said, this trade should be about individuals

What about the individual who cant afford £50,000 and dont foget the interest on the loan. If you did not have to pay this your £60000 better off straight away. what about the individuals who have never paid this, the system made them £50000 better off straight away,

and the individuals chucked out the airport

or the highland show

or the pollock halls

balmoral hotel

there is nothing individual about joining city cabs or central although both companys are good at what they do...... making money
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everything has to be in boxes for big time taxi driver Dougie, or it fires off a whole set of unused neurons,causing a cascade meltdown of his cerebellum. :lol:


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didnt take much goading for you to show the real selfish big man taxi driver that is dougie Smith :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

now we know why dougie is so scared of derestriction.....he will lose his pretendy wee status.

take my advice sell up everything put it all in gold (Capital gains in Gold!!! no for me)
and move to sunnier climes

all this time pretending to be mr humble..

selfish! selfish! dougie Smith

no one fecking interested in what your lot is dougie,least of all me.
btw i havent sold the plates,i just knew id get a rise from you if i said i did. :lol: :lol: :lol:

dougie youve already lost,and so has everyone else who puts their faith in the system,wont be long till we get some quantitative easing and its by by time.

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dougie for me being a taxi driver is just a job ...nothing more

i get the impression that for you its imprinted on you on a deep psychological level.

was passing your brief and getting a cab really such an achievement.

was it almost unreachable for you :?:

i studied and passed my brief while working full time. did it in 3 months 100% pass

i have had 3 plates and paid f all for them

2 taxi's and paid f all for them

i can see how this causes your psyche problems

you must be thinking, what a smart boy you are dougie.
and then along comes me and [edited by admin] all over your achievements by getting everything you worked for, for sweet f all. :lol: :lol: :lol:

aye could care less about taxi's
aye could care less whether you or some other driver thinks ive pulled a fast one.

ill let you in on a little secret...i have pulled a fastie. shhhhh. dont tell no one shhhhh

the trick is knowing when to sell,and when to sit.

youve missed the boat dougie
and as long as the current system is in place
then i can keep buying and selling.
think of me as a car dealer of sorts(arthur daily or somit :lol: )and not as a fellow taxi driver,it may ease your pain a little :lol: :lol:

45 MINUTES LATER :shock:

Foaming at the mouth comes to mind :lol: Back tracking also comes to mind :lol: Sleepless night ahead comes to mind also :lol:

But Hey YOU WIN :lol:

You are sooo superior to me :lol: And still living in Niddrie :lol: With your superior knowledge it's a wonder your driving a taxi :lol: Are your sure you never had something to do with bringing down the BANKS :lol:

But hey you WIN :wink:

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Quantative easing?

You mean the modern euphemism for inflation. For printing money you don't have?

There can be no better way for capitalists to steal the wealth of the working man than reducing the value of the money in his pocket.

You sell your labour for a tenner.

The value of the total pot stays the same, more money printed means the new pound buys you less of that pot.

Capitalists are bullet proof, money makes money. Interest rates mean the rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

Politicians get knighted or a nice cosy seat in the Lords, expenses and all or highly paid non-executive directorships (paid for doing nothing as a thank you for working the system in capitalist interests). The top guys even get to make speaking tours where the contol group can legally throw money at them, ostensiby for public speaking, but really as a "legal" buy off for being a good egg and working the system properly and to capital's profit.

I always believed that Keir was brought into the system by Inch.

I believe Obama has similarly been brought into the system.

That's how the system works.

This is what Dougie believes in.



It's a crock ....

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Jasbar wrote:
Quantative easing?

You mean the modern euphemism for inflation. For printing money you don't have?

There can be no better way for capitalists to steal the wealth of the working man than reducing the value of the money in his pocket.

You sell your labour for a tenner.

The value of the total pot stays the same, more money printed means the new pound buys you less of that pot.

Capitalists are bullet proof, money makes money. Interest rates mean the rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

Politicians get knighted or a nice cosy seat in the Lords, expenses and all or highly paid non-executive directorships (paid for doing nothing as a thank you for working the system in capitalist interests). The top guys even get to make speaking tours where the contol group can legally throw money at them, ostensiby for public speaking, but really as a "legal" buy off for being a good egg and working the system properly and to capital's profit.

I always believed that Keir was brought into the system by Inch.

I believe Obama has similarly been brought into the system.

That's how the system works.

This is what Dougie believes in.



It's a crock ....

I accept how power works, Every man has the oppertunity to climb the ladder of capitalism, (with investment of course), until he is happy when finding his level, i'm happy at my level, just enough for a good life :D

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Private reggie says

I accept how power works, Every man has the oppertunity to climb the ladder of capitalism, (with investment of course), until he is happy when finding his level, i'm happy at my level, just enough for a good life

If this is truly what you belive, why do you want stop multi plate holding


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Private reggie says

I accept how power works, Every man has the oppertunity to climb the ladder of capitalism, (with investment of course), until he is happy when finding his level, i'm happy at my level, just enough for a good life

If this is truly what you belive, why do you want stop multi plate holding


Dougie, is a mass of contradictions. You could be forgiven for thinking that, Dougie, is off his head. :lol:

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Private Reggie wrote:
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45 MINUTES LATER :shock:

Dougie hasn't it occurred to you that most people are taking the [edited by admin] out of you :wink:

Foaming at the mouth comes to mind :lol: Back tracking also comes to mind :lol: Sleepless night ahead comes to mind also :lol:

But Hey YOU WIN :lol:

win!win dougie what are you talking about,its a competition only in your own head,and if it ever was a competition you never even entered

You are sooo superior to me :lol: And still living in Niddrie :lol: With your superior knowledge it's a wonder your driving a taxi :lol: Are your sure you never had something to do with bringing down the BANKS :lol:

But hey you WIN :wink:


i dont know dougie!!! whats wrong with niddrie ??? :wink:
one minute your signing its praises,of how proud you are of its history etc,next your mister taxi owning slum landlord dougie Smith,wi properties all over the central belt,slagging me of for never have got out.
never wanted out dougie.
im a humble lad
you obviously think your better than people from niddrie.
very snobbish of you dougie,


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I accept how power works, Every man has the oppertunity to climb the ladder of capitalism, (with investment of course), until he is happy when finding his level, i'm happy at my level, just enough for a good life

If this is truly what you belive, why do you want stop multi plate holding

I take it you havn't read my view on Multi plate holding and previous views on Multi plate holding :roll:

What i'm saying doesn't affect the guy's who hold 1 or 2 licences even up to 4 or 5 but they will pay double per plate held for their annual test's, So if the first examination test (vehicle) is £250, a second licence held would be £500 added to the first licence, the cost of putting there 2 taxi's through there annual test would be £750

An example:1st licence 250 then 2nd licence 500= for both 750, a 3rd would be 1000+ the first 2=1750, a 4th would be 2000+ the first 3= 3750, a 5th would be 4000 + the first 4= 7750 and so on

The above example is to discourage mass multi plate holding, do you not agree that mass plate holders should pay more for things like annual examinations, they take out more profit but do less work, Taxi companies like a co-operative is a benefit to our trade and the individuals within it.

The above doesn't punish the guy with 2 licences, an extra 250 per year, or the guy with 3 licences an extra 1000 pound a year, but what it does do if you take say holding 6-100 licences is make it an un-attractive proposition for infiltraitors or profiteers.

So i'm not against Multi plate holding i'm for a fairer level of restriction, a level playing feild based on the difference between an individual plate holder like me too a mass plate holder like ECPH, the profit difference between me and a mass plate holder is the significance of my point.

I could buy another 2 plates tomorrow, 3 double shifted taxi's, £300 per 12 hr shift= £30,000 per year per Taxi, £90k a year - £15k a year for 3 positions in say City cabs, - £30,000 per year for finance of 3 new taxi's, this leaves £45k per year profit, after 3 years i'd have my whole investment back if i bought my licences and positions for £40k each and still have 3 finance free taxi's with radio positions, earning me after 3 years £75k a year, now for 3 annual test's it would hardly break the bank if i had to pay £1,750 as a result of having just 3 licences.

That level of capitalism is what i'm happy with and if someone wants to go further then and like in business the higher up the ladder you go you pay more for your investment and you pay more in taxes to manage that investment.

Individuals pay less than Mass plate holders who should pay more, trust me the council are looking at this as they need the money, court cases and aw, but taylor and thompson think by pushing the de-restriction button the gates will open, well the council will just come up with another form of restriction and it could be New York New York.

Your move Taylor

I feel like a pawn on a chess board with Taylor and Thompson just waiting on moving into check mate Sunset, and they no the game they are playing and so do the council :wink:

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The above example is to discourage mass multi plate holding

your saying the above

After saying this


I accept how power works, Every man has the oppertunity to climb the ladder of capitalism, (with investment of course), until he is happy when finding his level, i'm happy at my level, just enough for a good life


Im a little confused


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