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becuase you can buy your own at considerable less cost



you may see yourself as a commodity to be traded others don't


Why would you buy a job you buy a business. I happen to believe it's a business and like most licensed businesses it has restrictions. I don't see myself as a commodity but I do see myself as a consumer and as such I believe businesses will sell my loyalty to them if they sell their business

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becuase you can buy your own at considerable less cost



you may see yourself as a commodity to be traded others don't


Why would you buy a job you buy a business. I happen to believe it's a business and like most licensed businesses it has restrictions. I don't see myself as a commodity but I do see myself as a consumer and as such I believe businesses will sell my loyalty to them if they sell their business


thats gone so far over their heads the RAF are tracking it

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ALI T wrote:
becuase you can buy your own at considerable less cost



you may see yourself as a commodity to be traded others don't


Why would you buy a job you buy a business. I happen to believe it's a business and like most licensed businesses it has restrictions. I don't see myself as a commodity but I do see myself as a consumer and as such I believe businesses will sell my loyalty to them if they sell their business

you don't buy as their is nothing to buy apart from the vehicle
you apply for a license and you need a vehicle and the skill set to drive it.

ask any bank manager or accountant if i business qualifies as such when it only nets £30k a year :lol: :lol: :lol:


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ALI T wrote:
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ALI T wrote:
becuase you can buy your own at considerable less cost



you may see yourself as a commodity to be traded others don't


Why would you buy a job you buy a business. I happen to believe it's a business and like most licensed businesses it has restrictions. I don't see myself as a commodity but I do see myself as a consumer and as such I believe businesses will sell my loyalty to them if they sell their business

you don't buy as their is nothing to buy apart from the vehicle
you apply for a license and you need a vehicle and the skill set to drive it.

ask any bank manager or accountant if i business qualifies as such when it only nets £30k a year :lol: :lol: :lol:

You've netted 80k plus rental from your driver plus your sole earnings as a driver so how much have you earned this year :?

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you don't buy as their is nothing to buy apart from the vehicle
you apply for a license and you need a vehicle and the skill set to drive it.

ask any bank manager or accountant if i business qualifies as such when it only nets £30k a year :lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm afraid your bank manager see's it different, your self employed as a taxi proprietor.

Albeit, you and your delectable good lady, are, on paper, manager's, which bring forth a quote from Brian Clough, who was a manager of some note;

“If God wanted us to play football in the air, then he would have built a pitch in the clouds”

From a bank managers perspective; the license is worth a certain investment, which is guaranteed in Edinburgh, your labours is another.

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she has nothing to do with comet nor do i for that matter,im just a front for gangsters :lol: :lol:

anyway lets not leave it shall we.

explain why the mention

its kinda like me mentioning your wife,for no reason and then using the excuse that she makes your tea or lives in the same house as you.

so why the mention :?:


Well, since you mention it.

You did actually ask 'Who's Jackie?' which as it transpires does appear to be the person your married to, whilst I appreciate the fact that like any male you'll forget birthdays, anniversary's, kids birthdays etc, I find it strange you forget your wife's name.

But no difference, lets carry on.

My wife, or her who must be obeyed, whatever, doesn't appear in any minutes of Carlisle City council, although she has been mentioned and photographed alongside asbo 1 and asbo 2 in taxitalk.

She aint a mangaer of Comet 1 or comet 2 for that matter :lol:

I dont know where this is going, but it seems like fun.

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she has nothing to do with comet nor do i for that matter,im just a front for gangsters :lol: :lol:

anyway lets not leave it shall we.

explain why the mention

its kinda like me mentioning your wife,for no reason and then using the excuse that she makes your tea or lives in the same house as you.

so why the mention :?:


Well, since you mention it.

You did actually ask 'Who's Jackie?' which as it transpires does appear to be the person your married to, whilst I appreciate the fact that like any male you'll forget birthdays, anniversary's, kids birthdays etc, I find it strange you forget your wife's name.

But no difference, lets carry on.

My wife, or her who must be obeyed, whatever, doesn't appear in any minutes of Carlisle City council, although she has been mentioned and photographed alongside asbo 1 and asbo 2 in taxitalk.

She aint a mangaer of Comet 1 or comet 2 for that matter :lol:

I dont know where this is going, but it seems like fun.

CC

A game of HANGMAN comes to mind :lol:

Or have i spoiled it by speculating AliT and his Wife have New Apps in to the council :lol:

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Or have i spoiled it by speculating AliT and his Wife have New Apps in to the council :lol:


I cant say I'm particularly interested, but I wonder if Mrs Turnbull is a licensed HC driver in Edinburgh?

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maybe......but I think they should consider the idea, its got to be better than the current system.

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So are you just mischief making CC or are you seriously proposing a New York style medallion system?

If the latter, are you going to try and make it NTA policy or do you only propose it for places with no NTA members?

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So are you just mischief making CC or are you seriously proposing a New York style medallion system?


I'm merely proffering an alternative view, people can make up their own minds and it open to debate :wink:

When we see care homes closing, nurseries being closed, LA's struggling for cash.........then plates being issued, by those same LA's for nothing then sold for thousands, its obvious its a option people should think about.

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So lets recap and lets use some facts, which admittedly are a strange thing in the Scottish section;

Malta recently earned £1 million pounds through selling 20 licenses.

Southampton issued 4 and earned a grand total of £720.

A medallion type system would earn councils potentially millions of pounds, those millions of pounds are already allegedly spent on some alleged black market anyway.

The threesome want delimitation which would earn a local authority only the cost of issuing a license.

If Edinburgh were to delimit, based on evidence elsewhere there is a chance the fleet of taxis would increase by 1/3rd within 6 months, which is a conservative estimate to say the least.

Cardiff's taxi fleet doubled in a matter of 7 years.

Liverpool's fleet rose from 400 to 1200 within 2 years.

Carlisle's taxi fleet increased from 33 to 150 within 18 months.

I dont know the number of taxis in Edinburgh, at a guess I'd say 1200?

If 400 extra licenses were to be issued at £30K each this would earn the local authority some £12 million.

If this type of money is available to local authorities, it isn't beyond my imagination that any government, given the fact they have no money, would seriously look at this idea.

CC


Err, but if you issued the hypothetical derestriction number of licences then no one would pay anything for a licence and those currently in issue would become worthless. :roll: And you propose using demand surveys, yet these rarely propose issuing more than a handful of licences, so hardly a huge windfall for council coffers.

So you don't understand even the basic dynamics of the system, Reggie can't even get the terminology right - medallion system = plate system - and he thinks Transport Scotland have some sort of remit regarding these matters. ](*,)

But it would be great to get the whole thing debated in an open fashion, so bring it on, I say :D

After all, our Parliament is so bereft of big issues to discuss that the transport minister had to resign over a few issues of snow, so it would be great to get the Scottish commentariat and chatterati discussing the whole background and history of taxi restriction in Scotland.

But even if they did consider allowing councils to sell plates on the open market, recall that current plates apparently have no intrinsic value, thus they could rescind and reissue the whole lot, therefore current plates become worthless, but at least with the new issues it would be transparent and fairer.

To be honest I would be careful what you wish for, but a couple of years from now we'll know who'll get the credit for this 'vision' :D

I cannae wait \:D/

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quality caly cabby

yes to be fair they should all be taken back and dougie and co should be charged £30k

and of course it should also apply to carlisle :lol:


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captain cab wrote:
So lets recap and lets use some facts, which admittedly are a strange thing in the Scottish section;

Malta recently earned £1 million pounds through selling 20 licenses.

Southampton issued 4 and earned a grand total of £720.

A medallion type system would earn councils potentially millions of pounds, those millions of pounds are already allegedly spent on some alleged black market anyway.

The threesome want delimitation which would earn a local authority only the cost of issuing a license.

If Edinburgh were to delimit, based on evidence elsewhere there is a chance the fleet of taxis would increase by 1/3rd within 6 months, which is a conservative estimate to say the least.

Cardiff's taxi fleet doubled in a matter of 7 years.

Liverpool's fleet rose from 400 to 1200 within 2 years.

Carlisle's taxi fleet increased from 33 to 150 within 18 months.

I dont know the number of taxis in Edinburgh, at a guess I'd say 1200?

If 400 extra licenses were to be issued at £30K each this would earn the local authority some £12 million.

If this type of money is available to local authorities, it isn't beyond my imagination that any government, given the fact they have no money, would seriously look at this idea.

CC


Err, but if you issued the hypothetical derestriction number of licences then no one would pay anything for a licence and those currently in issue would become worthless. :roll: And you propose using demand surveys, yet these rarely propose issuing more than a handful of licences, so hardly a huge windfall for council coffers.

So you don't understand even the basic dynamics of the system, Reggie can't even get the terminology right - medallion system = plate system - and he thinks Transport Scotland have some sort of remit regarding these matters. ](*,)

But it would be great to get the whole thing debated in an open fashion, so bring it on, I say :D

After all, our Parliament is so bereft of big issues to discuss that the transport minister had to resign over a few issues of snow, so it would be great to get the Scottish commentariat and chatterati discussing the whole background and history of taxi restriction in Scotland.

But even if they did consider allowing councils to sell plates on the open market, recall that current plates apparently have no intrinsic value, thus they could rescind and reissue the whole lot, therefore current plates become worthless, but at least with the new issues it would be transparent and fairer.

To be honest I would be careful what you wish for, but a couple of years from now we'll know who'll get the credit for this 'vision' :D

I cannae wait \:D/


Quality post jaspar

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yes to be fair they should all be taken back and dougie and co should be charged £30k

and of course it should also apply to carlisle :lol:


If it means earning a living why not?

But then that wouldnt happen......and this is all a dream.

But facing facts here, if the national bodies take such a policy on board, and pass on the view to the politicians......I dont see the threesome / or is it foursome now caledonian cabbie has returns from his turn at being jaspar? view being of any use because you three / four dont see the larger picture.

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captain cab wrote:
ALI T wrote:
she has nothing to do with comet nor do i for that matter,im just a front for gangsters :lol: :lol:

anyway lets not leave it shall we.

explain why the mention

its kinda like me mentioning your wife,for no reason and then using the excuse that she makes your tea or lives in the same house as you.

so why the mention :?:


Well, since you mention it.

You did actually ask 'Who's Jackie?' which as it transpires does appear to be the person your married to, whilst I appreciate the fact that like any male you'll forget birthdays, anniversary's, kids birthdays etc, I find it strange you forget your wife's name.

But no difference, lets carry on.

My wife, or her who must be obeyed, whatever, doesn't appear in any minutes of Carlisle City council, although she has been mentioned and photographed alongside asbo 1 and asbo 2 in taxitalk.

She aint a mangaer of Comet 1 or comet 2 for that matter :lol:

I dont know where this is going, but it seems like fun.

CC
well i said who's jackie for a reason
so as to make it clear what you were really saying

the fact that you mentioned my wife twice,shows what kind of individual you are.
why would you mention it,nothing more than trying to have a random dig
in some vaine attempt to attack me

your pathetic,but you already know that.

and gusmacs right your just stringing Dougie along you know full well its a non starter.anything to counter the argument.
thats why i told you i take offense of anyone taking advantage of the disabled,in dougies case mentally so.


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