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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:05 pm 
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when he was assaulted someone jumped on his knee and because his other leg has been taking most of the wait he is needing a knee replacement.


Without wishing to appear harsh, why cant he drive a WAV and have an exemption?

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Why should he? :-|


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Why should he? :-|


Because the law allows for it?

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Why should he? :-|


Because the law allows for it?

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The law allows for a disabled person to provide a service he can't provide. That's a new one on me CC, would you care to explain? :?


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The law allows for a disabled person to provide a service he can't provide. That's a new one on me CC, would you care to explain? :?


There's an exemption that allows drivers who are unfit to display a council approved notice / medical certificate in his vehicle which states he is exempt from carrying wheelchair bound passengers and offering assistance which may include lifting.

You didnt know this? I'm surprised.

Forget Dundee and its mixed fleet for one moment. What would happen in Edinburgh or Glasgow or any area where local authorities have WAV only policies?

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That's the problem CC Dundee has a mixed fleet and believe it or not will not give out Exemption certificates under no circumstances according to the council.
I think the Equality bill has a lot to do with the councils decision not to go to court.

Are you saying CC that taxis drivers should buy wavs even if they are exempt from doing wheelchairs


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The law allows for a disabled person to provide a service he can't provide. That's a new one on me CC, would you care to explain? :?


There's an exemption that allows drivers who are unfit to display a council approved notice / medical certificate in his vehicle which states he is exempt from carrying wheelchair bound passengers and offering assistance which may include lifting.

You didnt know this? I'm surprised.

Forget Dundee and its mixed fleet for one moment. What would happen in Edinburgh or Glasgow or any area where local authorities have WAV only policies?

CC


The Health and Safety at Work Act, has already provided the protection required to do your job. You don't need an exemption certificate from any council.

If you are disabled, why would you buy a vehicle that provides a service you can't offer? :?


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That's the problem CC Dundee has a mixed fleet and believe it or not will not give out Exemption certificates under no circumstances according to the council.
I think the Equality bill has a lot to do with the councils decision not to go to court.


http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/regional/taxis/equality-act/pdf/annexb.pdf

I already think your council is as thick as pigsh*t, what are they trying to do.....lable the point?

If the driver has a licensed vehicle, which is wheelchair accessible, and he cannot load wheelchairs and do the job like an able bodied person, then issue an exemption certificate.

Its not rocket science.

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Your are not answering the Question are you saying that Drivers who are unable to do wheelchair work should buy a wav :?:


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he should then be on a level playing field with all the other Hackney proprietors if he has a WAV.


It would only be a level playing field if with other taxi operators if they all had WAVs. That is not the case.

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It would also be possible for a "carer" to load any wheelchair jobs that came his way.


Does your insurance allow this? I doubt if mine would cover it.

What the law does or doesn't say is immaterial.
Where's the sense in making a driver who can't load wheelchairs because of a disability buy a WAV, and allowing perfectly fit individuals to use saloon taxis? It's just nuts.

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The law allows for a disabled person to provide a service he can't provide. That's a new one on me CC, would you care to explain? :?


There's an exemption that allows drivers who are unfit to display a council approved notice / medical certificate in his vehicle which states he is exempt from carrying wheelchair bound passengers and offering assistance which may include lifting.

You didnt know this? I'm surprised.

Forget Dundee and its mixed fleet for one moment. What would happen in Edinburgh or Glasgow or any area where local authorities have WAV only policies?

CC


The Health and Safety at Work Act, has already provided the protection required to do your job. You don't need an exemption certificate from any council.

If you are disabled, why would you buy a vehicle that provides a service you can't offer? :?


Did you miss the above CC?


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Skull wrote:
The Health and Safety at Work Act, has already provided the protection required to do your job. You don't need an exemption certificate from any council.

If you are disabled, why would you buy a vehicle that provides a service you can't offer? :?


The health and saftey at work act provides for risk assessments. In other words you dont have to push some fat b*stard up a ramp. Or carry some lazy tw*ts suitcase if you think it weighs too much.

Nevertheless, this one will be interesting.

Mind you, I wouldnt like to be in a wheelchair with some of you lazy f*ckers.....heaven forbid any of you get confined to a wheelchair.......although i suspect in the case of some of you malingering layabouts it'll be like a scene out of little Britain.

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Skull wrote:
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The law allows for a disabled person to provide a service he can't provide. That's a new one on me CC, would you care to explain? :?


There's an exemption that allows drivers who are unfit to display a council approved notice / medical certificate in his vehicle which states he is exempt from carrying wheelchair bound passengers and offering assistance which may include lifting.

You didnt know this? I'm surprised.

Forget Dundee and its mixed fleet for one moment. What would happen in Edinburgh or Glasgow or any area where local authorities have WAV only policies?

CC


The Health and Safety at Work Act, has already provided the protection required to do your job. You don't need an exemption certificate from any council.

If you are disabled, why would you buy a vehicle that provides a service you can't offer? :?


Did you miss the above CC?

AHHH GLASSHOPPER where is your MASSER :?:

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stationtone wrote:
Your are not answering the Question are you saying that Drivers who are unable to do wheelchair work should buy a wav :?:


If that is the policy of the council as applied to an able bodied applicant, then yes, I think they should.

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he should then be on a level playing field with all the other Hackney proprietors if he has a WAV.


It would only be a level playing field if with other taxi operators if they all had WAVs. That is not the case.

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It would also be possible for a "carer" to load any wheelchair jobs that came his way.


Does your insurance allow this? I doubt if mine would cover it.

What the law does or doesn't say is immaterial.
Where's the sense in making a driver who can't load wheelchairs because of a disability buy a WAV, and allowing perfectly fit individuals to use saloon taxis? It's just nuts.


I agree %100


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captain cab wrote:

Mind you, I wouldnt like to be in a wheelchair with some of you lazy f*ckers.....heaven forbid any of you get confined to a wheelchair.......although i suspect in the case of some of you malingering layabouts it'll be like a scene out of little Britain.

CC


So can we assume that you will be purchasing a WAV when your skoda goes to the breakers, thereby doing your bit for the disabled?


Thought not. :shock:

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