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What is a M1 approved license?

No age limit on saloons, only WAV's..oldest WAV an applicant can produce is 1999 but, it you were granted your Licence before April 2005 you can put on a Doblo if not, must be Whole type European, but if you were granted a licence from October 2010 till present, you can produce a Peugeot Premier (rear loading) for testing...

Now what's hard about that to understand

Basically a side loading WAV

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Clear as mud

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Wrong.

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I'd call them rear loading death traps.

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I stand corrected;

M1 Whole Vehicle Type Approval

2.1 Within Europe, two systems of type approval have been in existence for over 20 years. One is based around EC Directives and provides for the approval of whole vehicles, vehicle systems, and separate components. The other is based around ECE (United Nations) Regulations and provides for approval of vehicle systems and separate components, but not whole vehicles.

2.2 EC approval of most road vehicles is based around a "Whole Vehicle" framework Directive 70/156/EEC (as last amended by 2001/116/EC), which specifies the range of aspects of the vehicle that must be approved to separate technical Directives.

2.3 The M category of whole vehicle type approval applies to motor vehicles with at least four wheels, designed and constructed for the carriage of passengers. M1 whole vehicle type approval is more specifically for vehicles designed and constructed for the carriage of passengers, and comprising no more than 8 seats in addition to the driver’s seat.

2.4 In order to gain EC whole vehicle approval, a vehicle will first have to be approved for e.g. brakes, emissions, noise, etc. The vehicles are subjected to numerous checks involving varying weights and forces to check the integrity of the vehicle; this usually involves destruct testing the loadings which can be applied to seat belt anchorage points.

2.5 The issuing of the whole vehicle approval does not in itself involve testing each vehicle, but a production sample of the complete vehicle is inspected to check that its specification matches the specifications contained in all the separate Directive approvals. The specification of the sample vehicle is recorded and only that specification is approved. If any alteration is subsequently made to a vehicle, such as the adding of wheelchair securing equipment, the M1 Whole Vehicle type approval certificate for the vehicle would be considered invalid.

2.6 Automotive EC Directives and ECE Regulations require third party approval - testing, certification and production conformity assessment by an independent body. Each Member State is required to appoint an Approval Authority to issue the approvals and a Technical Service to carry out the testing to the Directives and Regulations. In the UK, the Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA) is both Approval Authority and Technical Service and applications for Automotive Type Approval are made in writing to the VCA.

3 M1 Low Volume Type Approval

3.1 Low Volume Approval is a scheme to help vehicles made in small numbers to be registered in the UK. The operation of the scheme has been tailored to suit the needs of the smaller manufacturer. It ensures that cars meet safety and environmental standards.

3.2 Under a Type Approval system, a prototype is tested and usually damaged to the point where it would be written off. If the vehicle meets the requirements and the production arrangements also pass inspection, then cars of the same type can be sold and registered without each one having to be tested and inspected. In general the scheme covers fully built passenger cars and some dual purpose vehicles provided that:-

3.2.1 they have not more than 9 seats, including the driver;

3.2.2 not more than 500 in any one calendar year are issued with the special certificates required to get registration; and

3.2.3. similar vehicles are not already approved under the main M1 type approval scheme

3.3 The M1 Low Volume type approval test is usually carried out on vehicles that at some stage have held the full Europe M1 type approval, but have been altered in some way (e.g. by the fitting of apparatus to provide wheelchair accessibility). Applications for M1 Low Volume type approval are made to the Vehicle Certification Agency.

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George Carlin

Tell him to get an Auto.

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As opposed to side loading death traps like this:

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Dundee's Taxi Policy is seriously flawed,

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/dundeecity ... on_728.doc

They make up the rest as they go along...

judge for yourself....Option 4 was implemented

Omg, there's more variety in the Dundee taxi trade than there is in most ph fleets, ffs. Why doesn't somebody just swap with him it'd be far easier

Tony, is the fight for a variation on the licence from WAV to saloon the only option open to (collectively speaking) you? I'm not unsympathetic to the driver's plight, but if he was granted an exemption would that not resolve his problem? Or, as some said when I discussed this on the rank, is he cost cutting using his gammy knee as an excuse. (not knowing the full facts, it's easy to see where they're coming from). Anyhoo, I wish you good luck in your quest for the right solution to your colleagues dilemma.

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I voted Yes, without any fear.

The DTA and Unite Union are playing this card in an attempt to protect their "Holy Grail" (Saloon car status) Bruce "The Dud" Mathews is being manipulated in this instance. Eveyone knows he contributed to his now (supposedly disabled state) and yes, it's an attempt at cost cutting !
Don't see him refusng the big prams when he's back ranking in his WAV eh Tone ? He's out that car in a flash and loading it !

At least they can get out of the TX in an accident, try getting a person out of a rear loader when it's been shunted??

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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Believe me, don't get Mercury X2

John it is totally irrelevant that he contributed to his disabled state. Do you really think that the unite union would spend money on a QC if it was just to save money.Its about any driver getting disabled in the future.
Not that long ago you were asking the DTA and Unite to back you on the risk assessment and ergonomics testing paper work that you got from Garry (skull).You even handed in risk assessment paper work to the council. So what is the difference between you and Bruce not doing wheelchair work it is that Bruce is disabled and as a member of the DTA will get our backing.

John why is it you constantly ask for the backing of the DTA and unite union when things are not going your way,then at every opportunity slag them off no wonder Graeme(DTA) and Chris (T&G unite) do not trust you, you really do yourself no favours

There is obviously a split on opinions on this and maybe because of the farcical licence system Dundee operates it is not relevant to other parts of the country. But ask yourself what would happen if the same thing happened to you.