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Brummie Cabbie
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But HCVL aren't limited in many LAs & so chaos reign.

Like London?

Different scenario; they are controlled by quality of driver & vehicle.

Ditto every LA in the UK, to a greater or lesser extent.

I only wish that was true in Brum!!

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How come those that spout on about deristriction dont listen to those that sufffer at the hands of it.Is it the jelousy thing with plate values ? Like brummie says a most other things/buisnesses are regulated.They regulate pubs even here in blackpool,so many in town centre ect.The plate value is irrelevant, its about making a living and its hard enough without more cabs.
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My point is even if they did, they wouldn't be allowed to. There have been may occasions when Brum licensing has refused licences for food outlets because the committee believed that there were already too many in the area, never mind the same street. The committee restricted!! So of course you would never get 200 in one High Street!! Why? Because of restricting numbers.


But you wouldn't get 200 chip shops in the same street anyway, because business people aren't as daft as silly councillors and officials who like to play god and pick winners, sticking two fingers up to everyone else in the process.

No wonder people don't trust polticians.

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Nobody has, does or will owe me a living. I work hard for little reward, as do all HC & PH drivers in Brum.


Well I don't doubt that, but it's still the case that you want the council to give you something for nothing.

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Between the first & second survey 55 HC plates & 299 PH plates were handed back to the council. That tells it's own story.


So people come and go, as in any other job. There must be a combined flleet of over 10,000 in Brum, yet you expect that no one will ever give it up?

But, of course, it's the plates you want set in stone.


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And with HCVL plates restricted after the fiirst survey, 55 plates still went back to the council because they were worth nowt.


So there's too many taxis yet you're complaiing when people give up? :roll:

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I don't need a plate value; I have never had a free issue. But I could do with a decent job.


Another selfless plate holder who'd return their plate to the council when finished with it :roll:
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Don't forget Brum doubled its HC fleet from 1996 to 2007 to about 1450 & trebled it PH fleet in that time to 5200ish.


Not a huge hack fleet for the population then.

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And before you ask, about 80%ish of the PH fleet only come out on weekend nights & the wife, brother, son use the car as a run-around for the rest of the week
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And so do lots of hacks in some areas. Even in restricted ones :roll:

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Brummie, you rightly refer to lots of problems in the HC trade, but from a wider perspective other than plate holders there's no real benefit from restricting numbers.

I mean, take Reggie's New York model. Crap service, drivers paying huge rentals and earning rubbish wages as a consequence, yet medallions going for half a million.

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[quote="Caledonian Cabbie"]Brummie, you rightly refer to lots of problems in the HC trade, but from a wider perspective other than plate holders there's no real benefit from restricting numbers.

I mean, take Reggie's New York model. Crap service, drivers paying huge rentals and earning rubbish wages as a consequence, yet medallions going for half a million.[/quote

What utter [edited by admin] you talk :lol:
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blackpool wrote:

What utter [edited by admin] you talk :lol:


Well perhaps you could be a bit more specific about what you mean, after all you don't want people thinking you haven't got a clue.

But before answering that it might be a good idea to get the quote function sorted out, so I won't hold my breath waiting for a reply :D

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Dont know it gets a bit boring your same old... try moving onto another subject as wether you like it or not its resticted here .If you said anything i hadn,t heard a million times i might take a interest but you dont! So just for a change ill leave you with not a quote, but a double post :wink:
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My point is even if they did, they wouldn't be allowed to. There have been may occasions when Brum licensing has refused licences for food outlets because the committee believed that there were already too many in the area, never mind the same street. The committee restricted!! So of course you would never get 200 in one High Street!! Why? Because of restricting numbers.


But you wouldn't get 200 chip shops in the same street anyway, because business people aren't as daft as silly councillors and officials who like to play god and pick winners, sticking two fingers up to everyone else in the process.

No wonder people don't trust polticians.


Mmm Round here we've got 29 takaways on one 600 yard street.

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Mmm Round here we've got 29 takaways on one 600 yard street.


Only 171 to go then :lol:

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I believe you Brummie. I read the Brum survey you recently posted. I noticed 40 odd plates were handed back in last year. What i cannot understand is; Brum has 1400 cabs for a population of 1,016,000, that works out at one cab for every 725 people. My local Manchester has 1030 cabs for a population of 440,000. That works out at one cab for every 427 people. You should be earing nearly twice as much as us. But your cabs fetch nowt (and thats a fact) yet in Manchester plates fetch 60k even now in the worst recession known. Whats it all about ?
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So just for a change ill leave you with not a quote, but a double post :wink:


Aye, and you even managed to cock that up :wink:

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And before you ask, about 80%ish of the PH fleet only come out on weekend nights & the wife, brother, son use the car as a run-around for the rest of the week.


Actually, it's like that in some restricted areas, but the various family members are using the vehicle as an HC when it suits. That is, when they're not doing their 'proper' job.

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I believe you Brummie. I read the Brum survey you recently posted. I noticed 40 odd plates were handed back in last year. What i cannot understand is; Brum has 1400 cabs for a population of 1,016,000, that works out at one cab for every 725 people. My local Manchester has 1030 cabs for a population of 440,000. That works out at one cab for every 427 people. You should be earing nearly twice as much as us. But your cabs fetch nowt (and thats a fact) yet in Manchester plates fetch 60k even now in the worst recession known. Whats it all about ?

It's about the earning power of the business.

Otherwise there would be no value.

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
And before you ask, about 80%ish of the PH fleet only come out on weekend nights & the wife, brother, son use the car as a run-around for the rest of the week.


Actually, it's like that in some restricted areas, but the various family members are using the vehicle as an HC when it suits. That is, when they're not doing their 'proper' job.


And what would the difference when its deristricted be ?With more cabs out at all times trying to earn a living do you not think there would be less earning potential ? It really is a silly argument..
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