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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:43 am 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwZ-9xCk3g

Absolute gem!!!


Aye, you should submit that as your evidence to the TransComm, they'll think you've gone all intellectual :wink:

PMSL FFS :lol:

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Well they're forced into the smaller fleet of vehicles, which are rented out for inflated sums.


Forced :shock: What you chattin about :?


Rewind to where gusmac was asking what would happen to the surplus drivers under your grand plan, Toots.


I did and I still have no idea who is going to be forced into rented vehicles

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whoever he is... I bet... he's either on a grant or salary....but knows what's best for the self employed.... is my old mate Trevor Bowler still keeping well.


In fact I believe you're the one with the guaranteed income Mr T, me I have to get off my ass before I make a dime.

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
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whoever he is... I bet... he's either on a grant or salary....but knows what's best for the self employed.... is my old mate Trevor Bowler still keeping well.


In fact I believe you're the one with the guaranteed income Mr T, me I have to get off my ass before I make a dime.
Well then you're wrong again ... there are no guarantees in this life

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Are ph not compotition ?


So you'll let PH work the ranks then?

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toots wrote:
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Well they're forced into the smaller fleet of vehicles, which are rented out for inflated sums.


Forced :shock: What you chattin about :?


Rewind to where gusmac was asking what would happen to the surplus drivers under your grand plan, Toots.


I did and I still have no idea who is going to be forced into rented vehicles


Ok, I'll play.

Lets for arguments sake say there are 4 PH companies in an area.
Each has 40 cars on the system.
Each actually has a level of work good enough for 25 cars, going by whatever criteria you have chosen.

There is therefore work for only 100 of the area's 160 PH cars.

Taking contracts, regular customers etc from another PH circuit will not change the amount of surplus cars in the area.
This is, as Calcab said, is just rearranging the deckchairs.
You still have 160 bums to accomodate and only 100 seats.

Unless enough new work is generated to keep the other 60 cars, some or all of them are going to be surplus to requirements.

What happens to the drivers of these cars if the total amount of PH work is not boosted by enough to keep them on?

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Ok, I'll play.



Phew, I'd lost the will to live after Toots' last reply :-#

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Well then you're wrong again ... there are no guarantees in this life


But didn't Captain Cab say earlier:

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Nobody is telling the taxi driver he cant open up his own taxi company, it's just in regulated areas he has to pay. Albeit, the taxi driver is better off with a more assured income and business certainty.


And if you substitute 'driver' with fleet owner then, Bingo. :D

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Taking this a little further, lets assume each circuit is comprised of a mixed bag of office cars and radio renters. 20 of each.

If the circuit had to shed 15 cars, would it shed it's own cars for which it receives either a substantial rental or a split bag, or the guys who just pay a radio fee?

Also, to keep up the circuit's income, rentals across the board would be increased.
As the remaining cars would have more work, it would be easy to justify.

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
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Well then you're wrong again ... there are no guarantees in this life


But didn't Captain Cab say earlier:

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Nobody is telling the taxi driver he cant open up his own taxi company, it's just in regulated areas he has to pay. Albeit, the taxi driver is better off with a more assured income and business certainty.


And if you substitute 'driver' with fleet owner then, Bingo. :D
Life is always rosier on the orther side... or so they say.... more people go bust than succeed..... and as for dreamers

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gusmac wrote:
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Well they're forced into the smaller fleet of vehicles, which are rented out for inflated sums.


Forced :shock: What you chattin about :?


Rewind to where gusmac was asking what would happen to the surplus drivers under your grand plan, Toots.


I did and I still have no idea who is going to be forced into rented vehicles


Ok, I'll play.

Lets for arguments sake say there are 4 PH companies in an area.
Each has 40 cars on the system.
Each actually has a level of work good enough for 25 cars, going by whatever criteria you have chosen.

There is therefore work for only 100 of the area's 160 PH cars.

Taking contracts, regular customers etc from another PH circuit will not change the amount of surplus cars in the area.
This is, as Calcab said, is just rearranging the deckchairs.
You still have 160 bums to accomodate and only 100 seats.

Unless enough new work is generated to keep the other 60 cars, some or all of them are going to be surplus to requirements.

What happens to the drivers of these cars if the total amount of PH work is not boosted by enough to keep them on?


It will go one of 2 ways. The companies will either go out and find new work for the drivers, because they want thier settle money, so they can keep them or it'll be like a derestricted area, as it is now, way too many bums on seats for the work available.

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Taking this a little further, lets assume each circuit is comprised of a mixed bag of office cars and radio renters. 20 of each.

If the circuit had to shed 15 cars, would it shed it's own cars for which it receives either a substantial rental or a split bag, or the guys who just pay a radio fee?

Also, to keep up the circuit's income, rentals across the board would be increased.
As the remaining cars would have more work, it would be easy to justify.


I guess they would keep their own cars if they had any sense, don't you. We don't have a system like that here which is why I didn't grasp what you was on about initially. Most PH are owner drivers or on a settle buy. Those that do rent do so from an outside source so it's not connected with the office they work from

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MR T wrote:
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whoever he is... I bet... he's either on a grant or salary....but knows what's best for the self employed.... is my old mate Trevor Bowler still keeping well.


In fact I believe you're the one with the guaranteed income Mr T, me I have to get off my ass before I make a dime.
Well then you're wrong again ... there are no guarantees in this life


Well since you're asking for proof, where's the evidence that I've got a grant or salary?

No the nearest thing to a guaranteed income on here is via your local cartel with your council [-X

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
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whoever he is... I bet... he's either on a grant or salary....but knows what's best for the self employed.... is my old mate Trevor Bowler still keeping well.


In fact I believe you're the one with the guaranteed income Mr T, me I have to get off my ass before I make a dime.
Well then you're wrong again ... there are no guarantees in this life


Well since you're asking for proof, where's the evidence that I've got a grant or salary?

No the nearest thing to a guaranteed income on here is via your local cartel with your council [-X
I would like to say. that your naivety is refreshing, but unfortunately I can't, it's just boring.

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MR T wrote:
I would like to say. that your naivety is refreshing, but unfortunately I can't, it's just boring.


Quality reply.

Totally meaningless and diversionary.

But quality. :D

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
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I would like to say. that your naivety is refreshing, but unfortunately I can't, it's just boring.


Quality reply.

Totally meaningless and diversionary.

But quality. :D


Quite :lol:

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