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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:23 pm 
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And you really beliee this?

So why isn't every other market sector subject to restriction?


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Jasbar wrote:
And you really beliee this?

So why isn't every other market sector subject to restriction?
You don't get 10 butcher shops ranked up in the one street plying for trade though do you JIM :roll:

Everything in moderation Jim :D

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You don't get 10 butcher shops ranked up in the one street plying for trade though do you JIM :roll:


What council provides rank space for 10 butcher shops, to the exclusion of everyone else? :roll:

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You don't get 10 butcher shops ranked up in the one street plying for trade though do you JIM :roll:


What council provides rank space for 10 butcher shops, to the exclusion of everyone else? :roll:

Self restriction!!! No butcher would set up where there is an over supply.

Supply and demand = survey's of demand = fair trade regulation = restriction

There is restriction in most walks of life, infinity is a mathimatical impossibility

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Private Reggie wrote:
Self restriction!!! No butcher would set up where there is an over supply.


So butchers are smarter than taxi owners?

Private Reggie wrote:
Supply and demand = survey's of demand = fair trade regulation = restriction


Bollux.

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There is restriction in most walks of life, infinity is a mathimatical impossibility


Most things are self regulating - just like your butchers.
What makes taxis any different?

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Private Reggie wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
You don't get 10 butcher shops ranked up in the one street plying for trade though do you JIM :roll:


What council provides rank space for 10 butcher shops, to the exclusion of everyone else? :roll:

Self restriction!!! No butcher would set up where there is an over supply.

Supply and demand = survey's of demand = fair trade regulation = restriction

There is restriction in most walks of life, infinity is a mathimatical impossibility


Greta Junction Street.

Bowman's. A great butcher. SAupplies everything you'd want from a butcher. The best red pudding in the world. Does it all.

Except I had a female who worked in the butcher across the street in the cab. And from what she told me, she worked for the best butcher on the planet.

So how come two superb butchers are making their fortune located across the road from each other.

Dougie would restrict the market so that only one butcher existed.

And it would be the customer who would pay. Notice a parallel here?

And the diffeence between the butchers and the txi trade is it's not the butchers themselves who get to restrict the market, or they would. Just like the txi trade.

Then there's covent garden. Wall to all jewellers, no restriction there. Yet they all make a living and do so handsomely. Else they wouldn't be there.

Restriction is a commercial obscenity.

The OFT says as much. European Law forbids it in the commercial market.

Dougie only enjoys it because he is inadequate and the council protects hi,

Aberdeen said such protection was no longer sustainable.

Edinburgh is restricted be cause the competition gets to mpull our strings.

Dougie likes his strings pulled.

Pathetic Dougie.


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Your analogy does not work, jimmy boy.

People choose their butchers or jewellers individually.

Therefore a customer may go to a butcher because their preffered choice cuts steak just the way they like it, or in the case of a jewelers they may cut a diamond the way they like.

Taxi customers take the first taxi on the rank, or whatever cab a radio company sees fit to send them.

Passengers do not choose taxis in the same way.
Have you ever seen a punter take the third car of the rank because they like the way the driver turns into george street or they have seen that car has a green magic tree and that is the one they prefer.


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So what is the perfect number to meet demand :?: There isn't one Jim

The vast majority within the taxi trade agree that an unlimited amount of operators would kill the market we work in, not enough taxi's creates a huge demand that can't be met quickly enough, the balance between what's right and wrong = restriction = survey's of demand, this way works fine, but we will never find the number needed as market forces are variable

Over Supply and die, there has to be a limit = restriction

There is a limit to everything, even life

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Jasbar

Why the big turn a round from your views when you were with cabforce

what changed so much that you did a complete flip on your ideas?

Private reggies idea( not his politcal views ) of the new york model is not so far of what we have now except the system would be transparent and fair

would you agree?


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The often mentioned "New York model" is being brought up by those who already have a plate, because it will greatly increase the price they can sell their plate for.


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Is that a problem? it happens now i mean plates sell so why not make it offical


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sunset wrote:
Is that a problem? it happens now i mean plates sell so why not make it offical


Why is it a good idea to make plates more expensive.

Apart from your own greed.


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Says frank who's just sold up :roll:


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dug wrote:
Says frank who's just sold up :roll:


Correct, but bear in mind that I had to BUY that plate in the first place.
and don't be mistaken in thinking that a big profit was made by me.

Also, Everything I say now about reform in the issue of Edinburgh taxi plates, I was saying just the same when I still had that plate. And as it happens before I had that plate also. I knew what was fair.

It still stands that the New York nonsense is being put forward by those who have a plate and want to make sure they can sell it on for more than the 30-40k that they can get at the moment. It is simply GREED.

Plates should be in the names of individuals, no-one should have more than one, to have one you must have a taxi drivers licence.
And of course the selling must stop.

You can make enough money by simply running a plate, without having to be able to sell it.


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so what about the guys who have just bought a plate

should they like you not be able to sell the plate as you say 40-50k would be a lot to lose

If the plates were sold without the cloak and dagger that surrounds the issue just now and the ipl was opened up ( this would address the issue of non taxi driver buying ) would this not be a fairer way?


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