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Paedophile cab driver who took kids to school - Town Hall fined after boy was abused


FAILINGS which led to a convicted paedophile abusing a schoolboy he met while driving for a Town Hall taxi service have been highlighted in a damning report.

Camden Council was fined £1,000 for “inadequate procedures” and “maladministration”, following an investigation by the local government ombudsman into arrangements which saw the driver get a job with its transport contractors despite 15 past convictions for offences against children.

The boy’s mother made a separate complaint to the Metropolitan Police, which is currently being investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), over how the man was able to pass a Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) check.

He was working for the council’s taxi service, which provides school runs for pupils with special needs, at the time of the incident in November 2008.

Ombudsman Jane Martin, who oversaw the investigation, said there was an element of “doubt” over whether the council could have done more to protect the child in the report of her findings published this week.

But her investigation found:

• Council and contractor staff did not obtain references or an employment history of the driver.

• Council staff were unaware of its own safeguard recruitment policy.

• The driver was not interviewed in line with the council’s recruitment procedures.

The driver, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is currently serving an indeterminate prison sentence for separate sexual assault charges he was convicted of last year.

The convictions were handed down overseas, and, despite being known to British authorities, were overlooked during criminal record checks in 2007. He was also able to obtain a taxi licence from Transport for London (TFL).

Ms Martin’s report states: “I consider the council’s inadequate procedures constituted maladministration. It is difficult to say whether proper procedures would have made a difference to events but they may well have increased the chances of Mr Y’s past history coming to light.

“The complainant will always be left with some doubt that the council could have done more to protect her child. To recognise this injustice arising from the council’s fault, I recommend the council pays £1,000 in recognition of the distress she endured, plus £200 in recognition of her time and trouble in pursuing this complaint. In doing so, she has brought important issues into the public domain.”

The Town Hall has reiterated its apology to the family of the victim and says it has made improvements to the way it monitors its contractors.

A statement released by Camden Council said: “This is a tragic case and we would again like to express our apologies to the family and offer them our continued support.

“Our contractor did check that this man was cleared to work with children but unfortunately faults with the CRB system meant that his previous crimes were not recorded and his CRB checks confirmed that his record was clean. There is important learning here for all the agencies involved with children and we have been working with our contractors on recruitment and awareness to ensure that everyone has the tools and the confidence to flag up when things don’t seem right.”

source: http://www.camdennewjournal.com/news/2011/feb/

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I bet his £10/14 day POLICE check wouldnt have gotten it wrong

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Who ever was responsible for this [edited by admin] getting a job should also be jailed :x


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a bit more info in this article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/educa ... 00168.html

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http://www.lgo.org.uk/news/2011/feb/camden-council-criticised-school-transport-vulnerable-child/

The Ombudsmans report can be downloaded from the above link;

Camden Council criticised over school transport for vulnerable child

Date Published: 01/02/11

Camden Council’s arrangements for contracting out its school transport services were inadequate.

Camden Council’s arrangements for contracting out its school transport services were inadequate finds Local Government Ombudsman, Jane Martin, who today (Tuesday 2 February 2011) reports on her investigation into a complaint concerning a vulnerable child who was transported to school by the Council’s contractors. The child was sexually abused by one of the drivers.

The Ombudsman says: “This case has illustrated the importance of proper safeguards being in place when children are being transported to and from school. Councils must set out clearly their expectations of contractors and monitor those arrangements to make sure they are working properly.”

It transpired that the driver had a list of criminal convictions abroad for offences against children. Despite this, he obtained an enhanced certificate from the Criminal Records Bureau. This is subject to a separate complaint to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

The Ombudsman says: “This investigation has highlighted a number of learning points which have implications for councils and their contractors. The child’s mother who brought her complaint to me wanted to prevent a similar situation occurring in future. By doing so, she has brought important issues to wider public attention.”

The Council has accepted that improvements should be made to its procedures for contracting out transport services. It has made changes and its contractors are now required to appoint staff using recruitment and appointment procedures that equal or exceed the Council’s policies. The Council requires all safeguarding roles to be advertised as such and the contractor is expected to obtain references covering the five-year period prior to commencement of work and an enhanced CRB certificate. The Council is auditing compliance. Its own staff have undertaken safeguarding training and contractors are being offered training in specialist interviewing techniques.

The Ombudsman welcomes the improvements in procedures but has also ruled that Camden Council should pay the child’s mother £1,200 for her distress and the time and trouble taken in pursuing her complaint.

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Another one that missed the eyes of Mr Wright. :sad:

Strange that he seems to want this classed as best practise. :sad:

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Another one that missed the eyes of Mr Wright. :sad:

Strange that he seems to want this classed as best practise. :sad:


I get the feeling Mr Wright has backed himself into a corner by telling us all how great the legitimate minicab trade is.

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Sussex wrote:
Another one that missed the eyes of Mr Wright. :sad:

Strange that he seems to want this classed as best practise. :sad:


Get all the links together and sent them to the committee


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It also highlights the problem that has been said before on this and other forums,what checks are there on people coming into this country and almost immediatly obtaining a licence to drive a taxi/private hire!! They MUST have been here for at least 5 years before even being cosidered IMO!

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Skiman wrote:
It also highlights the problem that has been said before on this and other forums,what checks are there on people coming into this country and almost immediatly obtaining a licence to drive a taxi/private hire!! They MUST have been here for at least 5 years before even being cosidered IMO!


Innocent until proven guilty. If no records are avalable to show someone has a conviction it must be assumed that he hasn't

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Bart wrote:
Skiman wrote:
It also highlights the problem that has been said before on this and other forums,what checks are there on people coming into this country and almost immediatly obtaining a licence to drive a taxi/private hire!! They MUST have been here for at least 5 years before even being cosidered IMO!


Innocent until proven guilty. If no records are avalable to show someone has a conviction it must be assumed that he hasn't

So you would be quite happy for someone to take your children to school because he has nothing showing on his CRB in THIS country,but could be a convicted peadophile in wherever he came from!! :roll: :roll:

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Skiman wrote:
Bart wrote:
Skiman wrote:
It also highlights the problem that has been said before on this and other forums,what checks are there on people coming into this country and almost immediatly obtaining a licence to drive a taxi/private hire!! They MUST have been here for at least 5 years before even being cosidered IMO!


Innocent until proven guilty. If no records are avalable to show someone has a conviction it must be assumed that he hasn't

So you would be quite happy for someone to take your children to school because he has nothing showing on his CRB in THIS country,but could be a convicted peadophile in wherever he came from!! :roll: :roll:


So you suggest that everybody from another country should be assumed guilty until proven innocent, how's that work?

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toots wrote:
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Bart wrote:
Skiman wrote:
It also highlights the problem that has been said before on this and other forums,what checks are there on people coming into this country and almost immediatly obtaining a licence to drive a taxi/private hire!! They MUST have been here for at least 5 years before even being cosidered IMO!


Innocent until proven guilty. If no records are avalable to show someone has a conviction it must be assumed that he hasn't

So you would be quite happy for someone to take your children to school because he has nothing showing on his CRB in THIS country,but could be a convicted peadophile in wherever he came from!! :roll: :roll:


So you suggest that everybody from another country should be assumed guilty until proven innocent, how's that work?


Isn't that what they do now?
They won't give you a licence without a CRB check and therefore they assume your guilt until it comes through and proves you innocence (or otherwise).

Personally, I don't see why this country can't make sure that applicants for a licence are checkable.
If not, no licence until you have been resident here for a decent length of time and have at least some checkable history.
After all, what's the point of protecting vulnerable people from our own indigenous perverts, if we then issue licences to foreign ones?

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toots wrote:
Skiman wrote:
Bart wrote:
Skiman wrote:
It also highlights the problem that has been said before on this and other forums,what checks are there on people coming into this country and almost immediatly obtaining a licence to drive a taxi/private hire!! They MUST have been here for at least 5 years before even being cosidered IMO!


Innocent until proven guilty. If no records are avalable to show someone has a conviction it must be assumed that he hasn't

So you would be quite happy for someone to take your children to school because he has nothing showing on his CRB in THIS country,but could be a convicted peadophile in wherever he came from!! :roll: :roll:


So you suggest that everybody from another country should be assumed guilty until proven innocent, how's that work?


No, I did not say or imply that, what I said was you don't know! Whereas my son, who is taking his brief in Brighton is checked back to the day he was born but someone else who has only been in the country for 6 months(There is such a person on the same course!) is only checked back 6 months.
Do you think that is fair or right?

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gusmac wrote:
toots wrote:
Skiman wrote:
Bart wrote:
Skiman wrote:
It also highlights the problem that has been said before on this and other forums,what checks are there on people coming into this country and almost immediatly obtaining a licence to drive a taxi/private hire!! They MUST have been here for at least 5 years before even being cosidered IMO!


Innocent until proven guilty. If no records are avalable to show someone has a conviction it must be assumed that he hasn't

So you would be quite happy for someone to take your children to school because he has nothing showing on his CRB in THIS country,but could be a convicted peadophile in wherever he came from!! :roll: :roll:


So you suggest that everybody from another country should be assumed guilty until proven innocent, how's that work?


Isn't that what they do now?
They won't give you a licence without a CRB check and therefore they assume your guilt until it comes through and proves you innocence (or otherwise).

Personally, I don't see why this country can't make sure that applicants for a licence are checkable.
If not, no licence until you have been resident here for a decent length of time and have at least some checkable history.
After all, what's the point of protecting vulnerable people from our own indigenous perverts, if we then issue licences to foreign ones?


Well said sir! Nice to agree with someone north of the border for a change! :D :D

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