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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:35 am 
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Gateshead Angel wrote:
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Bleak picture you paint up there in Gateshead. Is somebodey trying to take your business away from you, or is it the fact that the competition for street work is not restricted anymore?

JD


Our largest PH operator was supposidly going to plate 40 Fiat Doblos, I asked one of their senior managers about this at a recent working party meeting and he laughed, "no Mick" he said " the rumour mongers have got it wrong again, we're putting 50 on".

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Is this private hire firm the same one you tried to crawl into bed with in order to restrict hackney carriage numbers?

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No.

I have nor have I ever had any intention of crawling into bed with anyone other than my wife.

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I'm not trying to make an issue of this Mick or indeed trying to make you appear inconsistent but you did say this in October, regarding the Private hire firm you are referring to. Look at the second paragraph.

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Last week I attended a "Taxi Working Party" meeting in Gateshead, I was shocked by some of the requests from Gatesheads Largest PH operator. As normal we asked the council to review their plate policy as more and more of our branch members are suffering financial hardship. The Chairman of the meeting Mr Richard Ferry, explained that he was inundated with requests for HC vehicle and driver licenses which proved unmet demand.

The representatives from Dean Taxis in Gateshead called for the council to attatch conditions to the WAV HC plates to force them to work for a Licensed Operator, as since deregulation the company had struggled to attract new drivers and was struggling to cover their work, particular emphasis was placed upon the work from the disabled community. We suggested that he just plated WAVs as PH, something he objected to as he wouldn't be able to charge drivers of PH WAVs as much as he charges drivers of HC WAVs. We then suggested that Dean Taxis should support our application to temporarily suspend HC licenses, then everyone who was inundating Mr Ferry for licenses would then have to licence PH and as their office was the largest operator the majority would approach them for work, we recieved no response.

Now I don't know what you lot will think of either the applications from this operator or the conclusions expressed by the council, but I find it quite worrying, if it is going to be the case that market forces should dictate HC numbers surely every aspect of that should be accepted without trying to move the goalposts when things don't go the large operators way. Much emphasis was placed upon the commercial decisions leading to applications, not much thought went into whats best for the drivers or for that matter the punters.


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and that constitutes crawling into bed with someone does it.

sad state of affairs JD.

BTW the firm in question opposed our application for a temporary suspension at a hearing that was held earlier where the representatives claimed they would struggle to get new drivers if the council were to impose a restriction, or be able to charge the same money for a PH vehicle as they could for a HC therefore effecting their profits.

Spin away JD.

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Gateshead Angel wrote:
and that constitutes crawling into bed with someone does it.

sad state of affairs JD.

BTW the firm in question opposed our application for a temporary suspension at a hearing that was held earlier where the representatives claimed they would struggle to get new drivers if the council were to impose a restriction, or be able to charge the same money for a PH vehicle as they could for a HC therefore effecting their profits.


Yes I understand Mr Dean is a big wheel up there in Gateshead and that he is generally hated by most of the Hackney carriage trade, makes me wonder why you wanted to make a pact with the devil. It's amazing the extent to which some people will go, in order to restrict numbers.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:08 am 
Mr Dean is the biggest wheel in Gateshead.

Up here he puts his points accross, we put ours.

We didn't seek a pact, we saught to point out to him that our way had its advantages to his business.

This may seem alien to you but during debates it is common practice to show how your argument could benefit the person offering the opposing view.

Maybe thats why you didn't choose to write a book on debating skills.

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Mr Dean is the biggest wheel in Gateshead.

Up here he puts his points accross, we put ours.

We didn't seek a pact, we saught to point out to him that our way had its advantages to his business.


You suggested that Dean Taxis support your application to restrict numbers. That's not pointing out anything, it is asking for his support. He declined the suggestion, probably because he thinks that in the long term he might drive you all out of business. What would you call asking someone's support in order to achieve your aim? It certainly doesn't fit into your definition of pointing out a mutual benefit. Do you need reminding of what you said?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:20 am 
For [edited by admin] sake JD,

are you on a personal crusade or some sort of power trip.

I asked you to confirm MY own post NOT YOUR OWN.

Now I have said on many occasions that my opinions change, they change according to the information I recieve and on forums such as these where so much information is passed my awareness to certain issues has an effect on my opinion.

If you want to go back through all my posts then thats up to you mate, all I would say is that I have learned a considerable amount even since my first post within these forums. If you believe that opinions cannot be changed then why do you contribute to such sites, unless of course you believe they can.

This site has achieved what all other forum based websites strive for and thats educating its members through discussion with others.

You seem to be constantly trying to prove points and are constantly berating others posts because you don't believe them. Thats OK though, we were all like that once, thought we knew it all, that is until we came into contact with those who know things we don't. We must, and should learn from these people, they don't force their opinion they offer it, and we should accept it, whether we act upon it is another matter.

Now, can we stop this please, there is always someone having a pop, I suppose its just your turn.

So can I have my many oscars now please.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:56 am 
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and that constitutes crawling into bed with someone does it.

sad state of affairs JD.

BTW the firm in question opposed our application for a temporary suspension at a hearing that was held earlier where the representatives claimed they would struggle to get new drivers if the council were to impose a restriction, or be able to charge the same money for a PH vehicle as they could for a HC therefore effecting their profits.


Yes I understand Mr Dean is a big wheel up there in Gateshead and that he is generally hated by most of the Hackney carriage trade, makes me wonder why you wanted to make a pact with the devil. It's amazing the extent to which some people will go, in order to restrict numbers.

JD

You forgot one thing, he's a W**KER too. You have to visit Gateshead to see the problems De regulation have caused and the under handed stuff going on at Gateshead Council. Drivers up there are suffering financially because of the inept decisions by the Council who are being pushed by Dean Taxis into making decisions. JD you are way off beam, keep looking in your papers and your book you might one day grasp what real Taxi drivers are fighting for.


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and that constitutes crawling into bed with someone does it.

sad state of affairs JD.

BTW the firm in question opposed our application for a temporary suspension at a hearing that was held earlier where the representatives claimed they would struggle to get new drivers if the council were to impose a restriction, or be able to charge the same money for a PH vehicle as they could for a HC therefore effecting their profits.


Yes I understand Mr Dean is a big wheel up there in Gateshead and that he is generally hated by most of the Hackney carriage trade, makes me wonder why you wanted to make a pact with the devil. It's amazing the extent to which some people will go, in order to restrict numbers.

JD

You forgot one thing, he's a W**KER too. You have to visit Gateshead to see the problems De regulation have caused and the under handed stuff going on at Gateshead Council. Drivers up there are suffering financially because of the inept decisions by the Council who are being pushed by Dean Taxis into making decisions. JD you are way off beam, keep looking in your papers and your book you might one day grasp what real Taxi drivers are fighting for.


I was fighting for real Taxis drivers when you were a schoolboy Nigel. There are lots of [edited by admin] in this trade....... and in life itself. You have an opinion and so does everyone else, don't always assume your opinion is right.

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I was fighting for real Taxis drivers when you were a schoolboy Nigel. There are lots of [edited by admin] in this trade....... and in life itself.


In 19 years doing this job I've met many [edited by admin], 99.9% frequent and post on forums like this. Unlike them I'll be here long after they have gone, you see I do this job to earn a wage unlike you and Suspect who pretend to be Taxi drivers, looking in a book then typing into a forum doesn't mean a thing to me, you need to get out on the streets in a REAL CAB, picking REAL PEOPLE UP, TAKING THEM HOME, CHARGING THEM THE RIGHT FARE.

You are not a taxi driver you are a leech who lives off taxi drivers, you might masqurade yourself as being a good guy, It doesn't wash with me, all you and Suspect are bothered about is F***ING the trade up.

Who is paying you to do it??? is it some high powerd person from London who's going to get a big brown package stuffed with money when all the trade is F***ED up good and proper??


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In 19 years doing this job I've met many [edited by admin], 99.9% frequent and post on forums like this.


Charming :lol:

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Unlike them I'll be here long after they have gone, you see I do this job to earn a wage unlike you and Suspect who pretend to be Taxi drivers, looking in a book then typing into a forum doesn't mean a thing to me, you need to get out on the streets in a REAL CAB, picking REAL PEOPLE UP, TAKING THEM HOME, CHARGING THEM THE RIGHT FARE.



Funny then that you and Mick seem to be the two that are always saying that you can't wait to get out of the trade, and indeed you've both at least once announced your definite intention to do so, and of course Mick has to a large extent moved on to pastures new.

As regards Sussex, I don't think I've ever met someone as enthusiastic about his long-term future in the trade (although perhaps this sadly says more about the average driver than about Sussex!), with our without a HC plate.

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I was fighting for real Taxis drivers when you were a schoolboy Nigel. There are lots of [edited by admin] in this trade....... and in life itself.


You are not a taxi driver you are a leech who lives off taxi drivers, you might masqurade yourself as being a good guy, It doesn't wash with me, all you and Suspect are bothered about is F***ING the trade up.

Who is paying you to do it??? is it some high powerd person from London who's going to get a big brown package stuffed with money when all the trade is F***ED up good and proper??


I've made this point dozens of times Nidge, so perhaps you could finally answer it lest you look a hypocrite.

Why do you regard the likes of Dunwoody, Kavanagh et al as heroes whey they are clearly not REAL drivers? It wouldn't have something to do with the fact they're saying what you want them to say, which is not surprising really, since the money the unions takes from you does support them financially!

And what about Mick, who clearly only driver because his other business isn't viable enough for him to exit the trade altogether. Do you still class him as a REAL driver?

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As regards Sussex, I don't think I've ever met someone as enthusiastic about his long-term future in the trade (although perhaps this sadly says more about the average driver than about Sussex!), with our without a HC plate.


He'll never be a taxi driver as long as he's got a hole in his arse, whats he going to do when all these imigrants have stopped flooding into this country??? when I look at Suspects posts and the times he posts them he's never a PH driver.


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Nidge wrote:
You are not a taxi driver you are a leech who lives off taxi drivers, you might masqurade yourself as being a good guy, It doesn't wash with me, all you and Suspect are bothered about is F***ING the trade up.

Who is paying you to do it??? is it some high powerd person from London who's going to get a big brown package stuffed with money when all the trade is F***ED up good and proper??


Is there anything that you don't like that you don't see a conspiracy theory in Nidge :?

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In 19 years doing this job


Is that all 19 years? You're still in an infant sunshine. I can write on a napkin what you know about the Taxi trade. If it weren't for people like me and websites like this you wouldn't have a clue about the Taxi trade.

What did Jim Button say about the most knowledgeable people in the Taxi trade? It sure wasn't Mansfield.

You might be adept at riding round Watford Nigel but it takes people like me to educate you in the laws of the trade. Mr Sardar or MR Kavanagh haven't got a clue and neither do you. So your credentials as a cab driver are pretty useless.

You drive a saloon vehicle just like any other private hire driver, except that you who can pick up off the street. When you get to drive a real cab we might call you a Cab driver. Until then stick to what you know and not what you think you know.

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