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Many able drivers can only drive autos if that's the only test they took!


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Although I think the lad shouldn't have to buy a silly money WAV, I haven't seen an answer to the 'why not premier WAV' question?

Or have I missed something? :?


Putting on the premier will not stop members of the disabled public asking him to do wheelchair work, he is forever being reported to LA for not picking up wheelchairs that's why he is asking for a variation!!

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captain cab wrote:
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Although I think the lad shouldn't have to buy a silly money WAV, I haven't seen an answer to the 'why not premier WAV' question?

Or have I missed something? :?


I have sympathy for the driver concerned, however I do wonder about the larger picture.

If the driver wins, in theory any council with a mixed fleet will be obliged to offer a saloon license to any driver with an ailment, which, as we know can be given by way of a sick note after a quick visit to a doctors.

Another thing that bothers me is that Dundee dont seem to have any age limits.

That aside, one of the main arguments of the saloon lobby has always been that saloons cater for the ambient disabled which is why they are needed. Of couse these vehicles, like TX's dont only cater for the disabled......which is a point that hasnt also been answered.

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Due to the fact this is now being heard by the LA and not in a court of law it won't set a precedent as each licensing decision is based on each individual cases merits

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captain cab wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Although I think the lad shouldn't have to buy a silly money WAV, I haven't seen an answer to the 'why not premier WAV' question?

Or have I missed something? :?


I have sympathy for the driver concerned, however I do wonder about the larger picture.

If the driver wins, in theory any council with a mixed fleet will be obliged to offer a saloon license to any driver with an ailment, which, as we know can be given by way of a sick note after a quick visit to a doctors.

Another thing that bothers me is that Dundee dont seem to have any age limits.

That aside, one of the main arguments of the saloon lobby has always been that saloons cater for the ambient disabled which is why they are needed. Of couse these vehicles, like TX's dont only cater for the disabled......which is a point that hasnt also been answered.

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Due to the fact this is now being heard by the LA and not in a court of law it won't set a precedent as each licensing decision is based on each individual cases merits

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captain cab wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Although I think the lad shouldn't have to buy a silly money WAV, I haven't seen an answer to the 'why not premier WAV' question?

Or have I missed something? :?


I have sympathy for the driver concerned, however I do wonder about the larger picture.

If the driver wins, in theory any council with a mixed fleet will be obliged to offer a saloon license to any driver with an ailment, which, as we know can be given by way of a sick note after a quick visit to a doctors.

Another thing that bothers me is that Dundee dont seem to have any age limits.

That aside, one of the main arguments of the saloon lobby has always been that saloons cater for the ambient disabled which is why they are needed. Of couse these vehicles, like TX's dont only cater for the disabled......which is a point that hasnt also been answered.

CC


Due to the fact this is now being heard by the LA and not in a court of law it won't set a precedent as each licensing decision is based on each individual cases merits


Should the LA's decision go against the gentleman in question, would that be an end to the matter or will he then appeal to the Sheriff?

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Should the LA's decision go against the gentleman in question, would that be an end to the matter or will he then appeal to the Sheriff?[/quote]

No the union will take the matter back to the courts!

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[quote Over & Out"]
No the union will take the matter back to the courts![/quote]

DCC gave him the thumbs down.


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Has an appeal been lodged?

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Chris the Fish wrote:
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Without wishing to appear harsh, why cant he drive a WAV and have an exemption?

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My thoughts as well CC.

Why should any individual be able to use a cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, vehicle. If he is given a "wheelchair exemption" via a medical, he should then be on a level playing field with all the other Hackney proprietors if he has a WAV.

It would also be possible for a "carer" to load any wheelchair jobs that came his way.


I have to agree, it just seems so obvious.


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Frank Lay wrote:
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captain cab wrote:
Without wishing to appear harsh, why cant he drive a WAV and have an exemption?

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My thoughts as well CC.

Why should any individual be able to use a cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, vehicle. If he is given a "wheelchair exemption" via a medical, he should then be on a level playing field with all the other Hackney proprietors if he has a WAV.

It would also be possible for a "carer" to load any wheelchair jobs that came his way.


I have to agree, it just seems so obvious.


Would the carer know how to operate the equipment?
Would the carer or wheelchair user be covered by insurance in the event of an accident?
Would the driver be liable for compo claims?

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Without wishing to appear harsh, why cant he drive a WAV and have an exemption?


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Also, once on the road the vehicle could be driven by any driver.

To me it just sounds like someone does not fancy a wav vehicle for whatever reason (Cheaper to buy, or would prefer a sallon for his private car when not at work).

And is willing to use, or abuse, legislation to protect the disabled for his own benefit.


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Frank Lay wrote:
Without wishing to appear harsh, why cant he drive a WAV and have an exemption?


I'm quite sure he could.
It was said that Dundee don't issue exemptions though.

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Frank Lay wrote:
Also, once on the road the vehicle could be driven by any driver.

To me it just sounds like someone does not fancy a wav vehicle for whatever reason (Cheaper to buy, or would prefer a sallon for his private car when not at work).

And is willing to use, or abuse, legislation to protect the disabled for his own benefit.


I don't often agree with you but I do here.

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