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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:14 pm 
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Stationtone wrote:
Bring on the cap with quality controls :D


Take it you're still gonna be a driver ?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:32 pm 
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Over & Out wrote:

lets clean up the sh*te


I'm all for that...no more hire plates..no more bogging drivers..!!

I'll phone the cleansing and ask them to send a sweeper down to chav to make sure there's no sh*te left ! could always tell him to bring a pile of green bags so you's could catch the sh*te as it comes out your mouths..or will it be spewings... 8)

Bring on your quality control as well..even more o the self centred, tight fisted, well past retirement, tax dodging gadgies that will go..oh ! and the greedy one's with two plates'

Thanks..you've actually proposed a sensible idea for a change :D


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Stationtone wrote:
Bring on the cap with quality controls :D

Google the, New York Taxicab fact book, and highlight the benefit of this system to a cash strapped council like Dundee :wink:

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Private Reggie wrote:
Stationtone wrote:
Bring on the cap with quality controls :D

Google the, New York Taxicab fact book, and highlight the benefit of this system to a cash strapped council like Dundee :wink:


The only thing Dundee has got in common with NY is a couple o Mcdonalds ! and i'm no talking about an ole guy wi a farm :wink:


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Stationtone wrote:
Bring on the cap with quality controls :D


The benefit being what exactly, and to whom precisely?


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Jasbar wrote:
Stationtone wrote:
Bring on the cap with quality controls :D


The benefit being what exactly, and to whom precisely?


Well not yours, jimmy boy.
Dundee is not your concern.
Keep you interfering nose out.


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tx_op wrote:
Stationtone wrote:
Bring on the cap with quality controls :D


Take it you're still gonna be a driver ?


not made my mind up tx but i will if the dta proposal is new cars at renewal might be worth my while, will you put a new car on or will you fight to keep your v reg on,Dads army are looking favorably at buying a £3000 vehicle if there proposal of new at renewal is not accepted like you did rather than buying a new vectra or a superb like they do know especaly when corprate plate are involved :D


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Stationtone wrote:
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Stationtone wrote:
Bring on the cap with quality controls :D


Take it you're still gonna be a driver ?


not made my mind up tx but i will if the dta proposal is new cars at renewal might be worth my while, will you put a new car on or will you fight to keep your v reg on,Dads army are looking favorably at buying a £3000 vehicle if there proposal of new at renewal is not accepted like you did rather than buying a new vectra or a superb like they do know especaly when corprate plate are involved :D


What difference will a new WAV only policy make?
Apart from increasing everyone's costs and making LTI , Cab Direct etc very happy bunnies?

Just how does a policy which will majorly increase the trade's costs sits with claims that it's on it's arse, needs capping because you've no work and your in dire need of a fare rise to cover your existing costs?

I would find all of this a contradiction if I were on your licensing committee. :roll: In fact I'd think somebody was taking the pish

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Aye, it's not about any of that. It's about getting owners a plate value. That's why they need incorporation.

If it were about the issues they say its about, there would be no need for incorporation.

Dundee puts a cap back on, then its about -

- shelling out for surveys £25K a pop

- £10K for ongoing surveys

- the cost of administering the ongoing internal surveying of demand

- it's about imperilling the public as has happened in Edinburgh - two cases of females being hurt that we know of.

- Fettering the rights of drivers to operate their own vehicle if they choose - potential discrimination legal action

- It's about more legal action to defend section 10 (3) when the next Dundee Taxicab Compamy pops up.

- It's about fettering enterprise at the very time our nation needs to promote business, not restrict it for vested interests.

- It's about buying and selling plates - against the terms and spirit of the CGSA.

- It's about higher rentals for drivers.

- Its about higher tariffs for customers.

All while a cap will not benefit workers, there will be no reduction of txis, there will be no re-distribution to ease drivers' shortfall of work. Owners holding onto their cabs to maximise the plate value will force a continual over supply. And if they were to leave with a cap on, the cap would stop them getting back in.

Only market forces can encourage individuals to leave the trade and return later when things pick up again.

Dundee City Council has already crossed the Rubicon It took the hard decision when it de-restricted. Unless it has a short memory, why would it want to go back down that route?

A route that the Aberdeen Corporate Services Director described as untenable and unsustainable.

At a time when Edinburgh is under stiff challenge and more challenges are round the corner. All of which brings it into disrepute for the way it has conducted itself.

All Dundee can achieve by listening to its taxi trade crank up its vested interests is the Edinburgh model.

A model failing and under severe attack, and which has a short shelf life anyway.

The choice is - cqustomers and drivers. Or the vested interests of owners who care about neither.

The Convention on Human Rights, adopted by the Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination .... or other status.

Allowing some to operate a taxi, and not others, based on vested interest is discriminitory.,

End of.

Is that what Dundee wants to become known for? How will the City be attractive to potential investors if its licensing policy is viewed as skewed and unfair? Would you invest in a City where you feel the council doesn't give you a fair shake.

A stark but simple choice.

Vested interest or enterprise.


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gusmac wrote:
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tx_op wrote:
Stationtone wrote:
Bring on the cap with quality controls :D


Take it you're still gonna be a driver ?


not made my mind up tx but i will if the dta proposal is new cars at renewal might be worth my while, will you put a new car on or will you fight to keep your v reg on,Dads army are looking favorably at buying a £3000 vehicle if there proposal of new at renewal is not accepted like you did rather than buying a new vectra or a superb like they do know especaly when corprate plate are involved :D


What difference will a new WAV only policy make?
Apart from increasing everyone's costs and making LTI , Cab Direct etc very happy bunnies?

Just how does a policy which will majorly increase the trade's costs sits with claims that it's on it's arse, needs capping because you've no work and your in dire need of a fare rise to cover your existing costs?

I would find all of this a contradiction if I were on your licensing committee. :roll: In fact I'd think somebody was taking the pish


Having WAV is not designed to benefit taxi drivers, it is to benefit others.

If we want to be treated as public transport, then we have to attend to aspects of safety and accessability just like other forms of public transport.

It is the 21st century after all.


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You want to improve the trade without going down the route of quality control then have everyone surrender their corporate status on their license, then when us Dads army die of then the numbers will reduce and everyone starts earning a living and not work 70 hours plus a week to keep our heads above the waters line

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Looks like the Disabled lobby don't want a 100% WAV fleet.

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/News/Dundee ... ility.html

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Can someone tell me how getting into the front of one of these

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is any harder for the ambulant disabled than getting into the front of one of these?
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Sussex wrote:
Looks like the Disabled lobby don't want a 100% WAV fleet.

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/News/Dundee ... ility.html


Echoes of 2003 with Ms Goodhall batting for the other side now !

Wonder who approached her this time ??


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gusmac wrote:
Can someone tell me how getting into the front of one of these

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is any harder for the ambulant disabled than getting into the front of one of these?
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That's not the best example of a WAV now is it :roll:

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