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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:23 pm 
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The vote, I believe, according to the boys on the rank, came out 4/3 against are you saying a quasi judicial process is illegal

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So, tell me why is PH in Edinburgh wanting to add WAV PH to its fleet?


Why wouldn't they?

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Outcome....deferred...

Why can a Councillor who's never sat on a Taxi Liasion
Group meeting vote for consultation and, by doing so, influence other Councillors to vote for same ?

Nice move DTA..but the delay is inevitable :wink:

And all aside...think you gathered that today.


Chirpy chirpy cheep cheep


take it snd digest it... you know what annoys me about you Tony.. you are a non entity...you could not or, would not put on a vehicle and ride the storm ! you pretend to have the trade's interests at heart..when along ...you're nothing but a goffer !


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The vote, I believe, according to the boys on the rank, came out 4/3 against are you saying a quasi judicial process is illegal


What you on about ! yer arse is grass and you know it !! Do you think the legal team of DCC are daft ?? you heard it first hand,,, 8)


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toots wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
So, tell me why is PH in Edinburgh wanting to add WAV PH to its fleet?


Why wouldn't they?


Precisely.


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"The Equality Act targets areas which have a quantity control policy and only a small proportion of wheelchair accessible taxis. It says that a licensing authority will not be able to refuse to grant a licence for a wheelchair accessible vehicle for the purpose of controlling taxi numbers until a certain proportion of taxis locally is wheelchair accessible.


Legally this is bollo*cks.

The CGSA stipulates the only reason why a taxi licence may be refused. End of.

Adding spec ial conditions is not in the frame.

BTW what is a taxi?

Sian O'Callaghan got into a "taxi" and was murdered. Actually it was a private hire.

No section of the press, when referring to "taxi" is specifically speaking to a hackney. These days are long gone.

And if taxis, real taxis, should be WAV, why shouldn't All "TAXIS" - ph INCLUDED - ALSO BE wav?


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[quote="Jasbar"]BTW what is a taxi?
quote]

jimmy boy, have you not even figured that out yet?

Have a read of your licencing conditions.

A mentally retarded slug knows the difference between phc and taxi.

But as now you want your friends at ecph to become taxis, you do seem a bit confused.


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BTW what is a taxi?
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jimmy boy, have you not even figured that out yet?

Have a read of your licencing conditions.

A mentally retarded slug knows the difference between phc and taxi.

But as now you want your friends at ecph to become taxis, you do seem a bit confused.


Have you tried Gaviscon for your pain :lol:


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Councillors agree to seek more information before making taxi decisions

A Dundee taxi operator says he is "absolutely delighted" after the city's licensing committee agreed to defer its decision on controversial proposals that have caused heated debate among cab drivers.

Doug Martin of Tay Taxis made the comment after councillors narrowly voted, four to three, not to press ahead with recommendations put before them in a report by the local authority.

In the document, two options were put forward for consideration, the first of which proposed the reintroduction on a limit on the number of taxis in the city.

The proposal also makes clear that vehicles should have wheelchair access.

The second option involves keeping the existing policy and also requires all vehicles to have wheelchair access.

Chairman of the licensing committee Rod Wallace agreed to listen to deputations from a number of bodies representing local opinion.

Erik Thoresen, from the Dundee Hackney Association, said he was in favour of option one.

"We welcome this report and feel it is a long time coming," he said. "We would like to get rid of the discrimination of wheelchair vehicles. It's time to move forward and make progress on this.

"We need to make a commitment to the disabled and the people of Dundee and give the best possible service.

"The taxi industry has changed. There are no longer queues of people waiting at the ranks and what option one will give the trade a breathing space."

But the Dundee Taxi Association (DTA), which claimed it was not given enough time to consider the report, did not share this view.

Graeme Stephen of the DTA warned councillors that a number of city drivers could find themselves out of a job if plans to enforce wheelchair accessible vehicles on Dundee's roads are given the green light.

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"I think it would be better to put a hold on this until further consultation can be carried out with various taxi groups," he said. "Around £6-9 million will be lost to the Dundee economy because vehicles would have to be sourced from Glasgow.

"There is an awful lot more discussion that needs to be done on this and I would ask the council not to make a decision on this today."

Dundee has a mix of vehicles suitable for all types of passenger. Those who stand against plans for phasing out saloon cars say that it will actually discriminate against a number of city residents, particularly the elderly and walking disabled.

Jan Goodall from the Dundee Celebrate Age Network, and convener of its transport group, said she did not want every cab in the city to have wheelchair access.

"Almost 45% of the city's taxis are wheelchair accessible with around 6% wheelchair users in the population," she said. "I ask you to think about other disabled people and the elderly -- the so-called 'accessible' taxis are not for them."

Meanwhile Dave Young, chief executive of the taxi operator 20 30 20, said he supported option two before going on to plead with the committee not to reintroduce a cap on taxi numbers.

"I never thought I would say what I am about to say but I told my drivers with wheelchair-accessible vehicles that whatever the job is, they do it," he told the committee.

"Then some started making excuses and dodged these fares. I told them that if this continued I would report them to the council myself. Nine members of staff left a few weeks later.

"Ninety per cent of wheelchair work in Dundee is done by my office. I never thought I would see the day when people would rather work on the street so that they can dodge wheelchair calls."

Committee chairman Mr Wallace said maintaining the status quo was "not an option."

He moved to adopt option one as a "way forward" and he hoped progress could be made as quickly as possible.

However four of the seven councillors moved against this motion on the grounds that additional information must be submitted and to give various groups more time to consider the options.

Source: Dundee Courier

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Just imagine, DDC delivers a cap, and Human Rights takes it away again.

Quality.

By then DDC will be liable for compensation. It could run to millions.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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However four of the seven councillors moved against this motion on the grounds that additional information must be submitted and to give various groups more time to consider the options.



No mention of the four all being SNP Councillors and, the link with the DTA ! imagine an Association that claims to have the Trade's interests at heart and, their Chairman admitting to the Chairman of The Licensing Committee that he had not received an ample timescale to discuss their proposals with fellow members, requesting what was his personal demands and preferences.

This Association has to be held responsible for all new licences granted from April to whatever date is set to enable the subject to be raised again before the Committee. Got to say though, their members do get value for money ! " look at it this way lads, we still got our saloons but, there's another 40 to 60 WAV's to compete with and, the wages are dropping again.." QUALITY leadership..

As for Doug Martin...two plates, does'nt drive any of them and, has an office full of hired plates...only reason he's delighted is the office would shut without the hired saloon plates..


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Jasbar wrote:
Just imagine, DDC delivers a cap, and Human Rights takes it away again.

Quality.

By then DDC will be liable for compensation. It could run to millions.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh jimmy boy,

If you are trying a wee bit of scaremongering for the benefit of the Dundee guys,
remember, it didn't work in Edinburgh and it won't work there either.

All your "human rights" stuff is just nonsense, and you know it!


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However four of the seven councillors moved against this motion on the grounds that additional information must be submitted and to give various groups more time to consider the options.



No mention of the four all being SNP Councillors and, the link with the DTA ! imagine an Association that claims to have the Trade's interests at heart and, their Chairman admitting to the Chairman of The Licensing Committee that he had not received an ample timescale to discuss their proposals with fellow members, requesting what was his personal demands and preferences.

This Association has to be held responsible for all new licences granted from April to whatever date is set to enable the subject to be raised again before the Committee. Got to say though, their members do get value for money ! " look at it this way lads, we still got our saloons but, there's another 40 to 60 WAV's to compete with and, the wages are dropping again.." QUALITY leadership..

As for Doug Martin...two plates, does'nt drive any of them and, has an office full of hired plates...only reason he's delighted is the office would shut without the hired saloon plates..


Is this coming from the man who has the disabled and infirm at heart or again only concern we the sheckles you can make, the majority of disabled who walk past your taxis every day in life you now want to discriminate against them, what about their choice, let's not be a hypocrite and admit you only give a flying F*CK for what's good for you, what are you giving up for this vote to go through sweet F A.

Did you not understand why you got your licences, that's the reason your driving what you drive.

I bet if the DCC in 2003 implemented the survey of 507 then told the trade every car had to be wheelchair compliant with 5 years and you can all have your corporate plate, would you have agreed with that no you F in well wouldn't cause you wouldn't have got a licence.

You knew what you signed on for so why cry about it after.

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Over & Out wrote:
Did you not understand why you got your licences, that's the reason your driving what you drive.


Very much so...because people like you who wanted their own way even back then were hiring plates thus, denying the next on the list {which i was 10 years on) the opportunity to enter the Trade and, they're still being hired out today ! So when you use the term hypocrosy surely that applies to you and you're saloon operators.

Are you saying that you would rather have another 100 vehicles in service just to protect saloon status whilst hoping for a plate value to emerge from the ashes ? Do you not get it ? you will never accquire a mixed fleet ! this was stated by the Chairman..


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Jasbar wrote:
Just imagine, DDC delivers a cap, and Human Rights takes it away again.

Quality.

By then DDC will be liable for compensation. It could run to millions.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


'Imagine' is all you can do at the moment cos the human rights hasn't done anything as yet and as far as I'm aware the human rights arguement didn't hold up in court

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