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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:01 am 
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Your dream is that a cap on plates is going to turn Dundee into the promised land. So how long after this little miracle is the milk and honey going to follow?

With all this work and big rentals coming your way you won't know what to do with yourselves.
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It's the same in Edinburgh. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


How is it going to turn Dundee into the mother land you clot?? Turning around from deregulation takes years.

Now do one Taylor wants some wrong love.



That's the problem with inbreeds like you midlander, your genetic make-up only supports procreation and excessive substance abuse, thinking is for higher forms of life.

Twenty years ago in Edinburgh, you could make the argument that restriction works for the taxi trade. For all intents and purposes, there was no competition. You had an infrequent bus service and an extremely sparse Ph fleet. Times have changed. Taxis are no longer operating in a restricted market with little or no serious competition. The bus service is second to none while the Ph has expanded to meet public demand. Technology and vehicle type has almost put them on a par with the Taxi fleet. The exception being the quality of the drivers, but give it a few years and even that will blur into insignificance.

The last ten years have seen an economic bubble which has now burst, a swelling labour pool of drivers, a shortage of available shifts forcing up rentals and artificial plate premiums, against a backdrop of falling customer numbers. In short, the Taxi market in Edinburgh is fecked.

The fact is, there is no longer a restricted market, but only a choice of how you compete in, regulate and control the market.

I suspect that Taxis (wav's) have already lost their critical mass in Dundee and as a consequence, a new cap, will only force drivers owners and customers into the arms of their competitors, the Ph, diluting the market even further.

Re-restriction is not the answer, and there is no turning the clock back. :-|


For a minute there I thought Midlander might make a valuable contribution.

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So, can we agree that re-restricting Dundee won't really make a blind bit of a difference?

In the short term there will be no immediate effect and in the long term it might even make matters worse, Edinburgh being a case in point. At the very least the reality will mean more Ph.

If it's fair to say that restriction brings benefits then perhaps those from Dundee can explain exactly what they stand to gain from a cap?



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Is Dundee brain dead?
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Aye jimmy boy,

How to make friends and influence people!


You seem to have a need to influence people.

I on the other hand don't give a toss. I certainly don't need to influence Dundonians. If it's there choice to sleepwalk to the Edinburgh Model where drivers can't get access to the tools of their trade without shelling £50 grand to a taxi baron then so be it. It's their call.

They can heed th warnings or not.

But the stunning lack of input fron Dundee tax drivers on this forum really must call into question just wht they're about.

If they disgree and can see the benefits of restriction, then why aren't they proudly tellin us why?

If the don't, whau aren't they complaining now, when they have a chance to shape yheir own future.

It's in a climate of no action either way that any question of being brain dead comes about.

Now Frank, you can go for the popularity gig.

I'll just stick to laying out the arguments, and wondering.

But I'll say it again.

Tell us where we're getting this wrong.


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Just your usual drivel then, jimmy boy.

I have heard of people being sent to Coventry,
But it seems the Edinburgh taxi trade is sending you to Dundee!

I am sure they will welcome you with open arms!

Perhaps it is an idea for Gary to head up there to work, while he is not a fit and proper person down here.

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Frank Lay wrote:
Just your usual drivel then, jimmy boy.

I have heard of people being sent to Coventry,
But it seems the Edinburgh taxi trade is sending you to Dundee!

I am sure they will welcome you with open arms!

Perhaps it is an idea for Gary to head up there to work, while he is not a fit and proper person down here.


More childish drivel from an imbecile.

Now, you think you know it all, YOU tell us what benefit the proposed restriction in Dundee will bring to drivers.

Of course you can't. Because you've lost the argument.

You know full well drivers are being taken for the ride here.

And all you can do is childish playground pash. You were the school sneak wewren't you Another inadequate who thinks he's a big shot in the taxi trade,

A yellow belly coward who knows that if we knew your ID we'd all be laughing at you.

But we're laughing at you anyway.

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BTW I could rattle off a list of feckwits I've come across in this trade. I'd bet you're one of those. :lol:


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Oh jimmy boy,

I wouldn't dare to tell people from another area what they should do, that's their business.

Because, unlike yourself, I don't have an over inflated sense of my own importance.

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Frank Lay wrote:
Oh jimmy boy,

I wouldn't dare to tell people from another area what they should do, that's their business.

Because, unlike yourself, I don't have an over inflated sense of my own importance.


OK. A good excuse no doubt.

Then try this one.

Whats the benefit of restriction to drivers in Edinburgh?


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Stability, and making sure what fares there are aren't spread too thin over too many cars.

It is spread thin anyway, but it could be worse.

Pretty obvious isn't it, jimmy boy.

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Frank Lay wrote:

Pretty obvious isn't it, jimmy boy.


Only to the brainwashed and hard of thinking........ :shock:

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Frank Lay wrote:
Stability, and making sure what fares there are aren't spread too thin over too many cars.

It is spread thin anyway, but it could be worse.

Pretty obvious isn't it, jimmy boy.


That it? The best you can do?

And the stability is where pecisely?

13 cars on the Lothian Road rank? Stability? Can't get on Mood. Scandic stappit fu'. Cars ranking illegally in George Street. The list is legendary. That sure is stability. Fact is, it's already got worse.

Fares not spread too thin? What is it about the huge 300+% increase in PH don't you understand? Where did this growth come from?

Things are gonna pick up. The economy is going to recover. So, who's gonna take up the slack?

The taxi trade with its need to do a survey or ECPHG who'll just put another 50 car on the fleet?

And how stable is our market, and our situation, when it is PH that is driving the pricing? Because we've surrendered our critical mass, diluted our stength in the market?



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Frank Lay wrote:
Stability, and making sure what fares there are aren't spread too thin over too many cars.

It is spread thin anyway, but it could be worse.

Pretty obvious isn't it, jimmy boy.


Your need to return to the past, is a forlorn hope, but your fear of the future is all too apparent.

What don't you get Frank, the game is fecked, there is no going back?

Christ, this is like one of those films where everyone wants to go back in time to make things right. I think you've been watching too many movies Frank.

Edinburgh doesn't want to leave the past behind while Dundee wants to return to the past to solve all its problems.

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According to trade gurus working their vested interest plate premiums, Dundee's future is Edinburgh's past.

How does this help drivers?

You couldn't make it up.

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Jasbar wrote:
According to trade gurus working their vested interest plate premiums, Dundee's future is Edinburgh's past.

How does this help drivers?

You couldn't make it up.

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I think by their pitiful responses. They already know the truth. :-|


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Frank Lay wrote:
Stability, and making sure what fares there are aren't spread too thin over too many cars.

It is spread thin anyway, but it could be worse.

Pretty obvious isn't it, jimmy boy.


Ok, you two.

In a post of the same size, tell us why more taxis will improve things.

No ranting.

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Frank Lay wrote:
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Stability, and making sure what fares there are aren't spread too thin over too many cars.

It is spread thin anyway, but it could be worse.

Pretty obvious isn't it, jimmy boy.


Ok, you two.

In a post of the same size, tell us why more taxis will improve things.

No ranting.


We never claimed that more taxis would benefit the trade, only the drivers being forced to pay big rentals to work unproductive hours to prop up someone's illusion.

The right to have unfettered access to the tools of your trade is a fundamental right.

The trade is fecked, and it's now every man for himself.

What do you want Frank, more taxis or Ph?


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