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Actions on the internet have to be started by somebody so why hasn't anybody already started one with regard to the taxi trade if there are so many unhappy with it

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Actions on the internet have to be started by somebody so why hasn't anybody already started one with regard to the taxi trade if there are so many unhappy with it


It only needs one or two people with enough technical knowledge to get it started. If preaching the right messege to the right audience, it can grow until a critical mass is achieved.

Just because something hasn't happened, doesn't mean it can't or won't. It also doesn't mean it will.

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Actions on the internet have to be started by somebody so why hasn't anybody already started one with regard to the taxi trade if there are so many unhappy with it


It only needs one or two people with enough technical knowledge to get it started. If preaching the right messege to the right audience, it can grow until a critical mass is achieved.

Just because something hasn't happened, doesn't mean it can't or won't. It also doesn't mean it will.



If you have enough people with BALLS, and the tools, the rest is ... :-|


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Actions on the internet have to be started by somebody so why hasn't anybody already started one with regard to the taxi trade if there are so many unhappy with it


It only needs one or two people with enough technical knowledge to get it started. If preaching the right messege to the right audience, it can grow until a critical mass is achieved.

Just because something hasn't happened, doesn't mean it can't or won't. It also doesn't mean it will.



If you have enough people with BALLS, and the tools, the rest is ... :-|


It's not just about balls it's also about desire

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toots wrote:
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Actions on the internet have to be started by somebody so why hasn't anybody already started one with regard to the taxi trade if there are so many unhappy with it


It only needs one or two people with enough technical knowledge to get it started. If preaching the right messege to the right audience, it can grow until a critical mass is achieved.

Just because something hasn't happened, doesn't mean it can't or won't. It also doesn't mean it will.



If you have enough people with BALLS, and the tools, the rest is ... :-|


It's not just about balls it's also about desire


Okay, "it's also about desire" happy now? :-|


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My point about there needing to be a desire to change things is that there just doesn't seem to be any desire to do this on a large enough scale for it to make a difference. Take for example the fair fuel campaign that is running on facebook. The amount of members that has and still change is yet to come. The taxi trade cannot muster up enough support locally never mind nationally to effect decisions from parliament which is why it is important to work with the local government to achieve this. Your desire is to see your local government crash and burn is far greater than your desire to see the taxi trade achieve a fair and honest representation by working with the said local government

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My point about there needing to be a desire to change things is that there just doesn't seem to be any desire to do this on a large enough scale for it to make a difference. Take for example the fair fuel campaign that is running on facebook. The amount of members that has and still change is yet to come. The taxi trade cannot muster up enough support locally never mind nationally to effect decisions from parliament which is why it is important to work with the local government to achieve this. Your desire is to see your local government crash and burn is far greater than your desire to see the taxi trade achieve a fair and honest representation by working with the said local government



You live in a dream world Toots. :roll:


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My point about there needing to be a desire to change things is that there just doesn't seem to be any desire to do this on a large enough scale for it to make a difference. Take for example the fair fuel campaign that is running on facebook. The amount of members that has and still change is yet to come. The taxi trade cannot muster up enough support locally never mind nationally to effect decisions from parliament which is why it is important to work with the local government to achieve this. Your desire is to see your local government crash and burn is far greater than your desire to see the taxi trade achieve a fair and honest representation by working with the said local government



You live in a dream world Toots. :roll:


and you don't :lol: :lol:

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My point about there needing to be a desire to change things is that there just doesn't seem to be any desire to do this on a large enough scale for it to make a difference. Take for example the fair fuel campaign that is running on facebook. The amount of members that has and still change is yet to come. The taxi trade cannot muster up enough support locally never mind nationally to effect decisions from parliament which is why it is important to work with the local government to achieve this. Your desire is to see your local government crash and burn is far greater than your desire to see the taxi trade achieve a fair and honest representation by working with the said local government



You live in a dream world Toots. :roll:


and you don't :lol: :lol:


Politicians are not directly accountable for the decision they make. Yes, you can vote them out after four years but what you get is more of the same. If they fail to represent you on a particular matter or make a bad decision that costs the tax payer, a fortune or a taxi driver his licence. No one loses their job or their pension and no one goes to Jail. What you have is a veneer of democracy. The creation of a political class which spoon feeds likes of you the democratic illusion. All the words are there, liberty, freedom, Justice but democracy, close but no cigar. There is very little compelling a politician to do the right thing or to act in your personal interests no matter how unfair the situation. If it doesn't serve his political career you can go take a hike.


In reality, you have an elected dictatorship that represents its own interests and that of big business.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M :-|


Do you agree with the above Toots, or is this just something else I made up?


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Skull wrote:
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My point about there needing to be a desire to change things is that there just doesn't seem to be any desire to do this on a large enough scale for it to make a difference. Take for example the fair fuel campaign that is running on facebook. The amount of members that has and still change is yet to come. The taxi trade cannot muster up enough support locally never mind nationally to effect decisions from parliament which is why it is important to work with the local government to achieve this. Your desire is to see your local government crash and burn is far greater than your desire to see the taxi trade achieve a fair and honest representation by working with the said local government



You live in a dream world Toots. :roll:


and you don't :lol: :lol:


Politicians are not directly accountable for the decision they make. Yes, you can vote them out after four years but what you get is more of the same. If they fail to represent you on a particular matter or make a bad decision that costs the tax payer, a fortune or a taxi driver his licence. No one loses their job or their pension and no one goes to Jail. What you have is a veneer of democracy. The creation of a political class which spoon feeds likes of you the democratic illusion. All the words are there, liberty, freedom, Justice but democracy, close but no cigar. There is very little compelling a politician to do the right thing or to act in your personal interests no matter how unfair the situation. If it doesn't serve his political career you can go take a hike.


In reality, you have an elected dictatorship that represents its own interests and that of big business.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M :-|


They are not there to serve my personal interests they are there to serve the majority interest. What would you have in it's place if not the system we have now?

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My point about there needing to be a desire to change things is that there just doesn't seem to be any desire to do this on a large enough scale for it to make a difference. Take for example the fair fuel campaign that is running on facebook. The amount of members that has and still change is yet to come. The taxi trade cannot muster up enough support locally never mind nationally to effect decisions from parliament which is why it is important to work with the local government to achieve this. Your desire is to see your local government crash and burn is far greater than your desire to see the taxi trade achieve a fair and honest representation by working with the said local government



You live in a dream world Toots. :roll:


and you don't :lol: :lol:


Politicians are not directly accountable for the decision they make. Yes, you can vote them out after four years but what you get is more of the same. If they fail to represent you on a particular matter or make a bad decision that costs the tax payer, a fortune or a taxi driver his licence. No one loses their job or their pension and no one goes to Jail. What you have is a veneer of democracy. The creation of a political class which spoon feeds likes of you the democratic illusion. All the words are there, liberty, freedom, Justice but democracy, close but no cigar. There is very little compelling a politician to do the right thing or to act in your personal interests no matter how unfair the situation. If it doesn't serve his political career you can go take a hike.


In reality, you have an elected dictatorship that represents its own interests and that of big business.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M :-|


They are not there to serve my personal interests they are there to serve the majority interest. What would you have in it's place if not the system we have now?


A real democracy perhaps where politicians are accountable for their decisions compelling them to act in our interest first and not their own.

At local level politicians are supposed to act on your behalf and that of the greater community.


Are you deliberately being obtuse?
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No more than you :roll:

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My point about there needing to be a desire to change things is that there just doesn't seem to be any desire to do this on a large enough scale for it to make a difference. Take for example the fair fuel campaign that is running on facebook. The amount of members that has and still change is yet to come. The taxi trade cannot muster up enough support locally never mind nationally to effect decisions from parliament which is why it is important to work with the local government to achieve this. Your desire is to see your local government crash and burn is far greater than your desire to see the taxi trade achieve a fair and honest representation by working with the said local government



You live in a dream world Toots. :roll:


and you don't :lol: :lol:


Politicians are not directly accountable for the decision they make. Yes, you can vote them out after four years but what you get is more of the same. If they fail to represent you on a particular matter or make a bad decision that costs the tax payer, a fortune or a taxi driver his licence. No one loses their job or their pension and no one goes to Jail. What you have is a veneer of democracy. The creation of a political class which spoon feeds likes of you the democratic illusion. All the words are there, liberty, freedom, Justice but democracy, close but no cigar. There is very little compelling a politician to do the right thing or to act in your personal interests no matter how unfair the situation. If it doesn't serve his political career you can go take a hike.


In reality, you have an elected dictatorship that represents its own interests and that of big business.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M :-|


Do you agree with the above Toots, or is this just something else I made up?


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Skull it's not about whether you made it up, it's just your opinion of the system as you see it. I see things differently than you there's nowt wrong with that, it's human nature. Just be glad you're in a country where you're allowed to say what you think and watch some quality comedy at the same time. You should read the Guardian newspaper :wink:

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