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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:00 pm 
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I do not work for arrow, for your information im a IT Contractor.

Why dont the unions get involved at manchester airport or the council the black cabs need to get their act together if they are to even exist at the airport ive heard that arrow have taken over completely at leeds bradford and east midlands, this is not hear say its official as its been in the press, and ive seen alot of activity re arrow cars at manchester airport. also manchester airport is going to be undergoing substancial building works around the airport which could leave little space for black cabs to park up.All of this has been in in the press over the last couple of weeks.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:45 pm 
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cwright wrote:
I do not work for arrow, for your information im a IT Contractor.



so why worry about what/who is working the airport, just get a car......

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:50 pm 
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cwright wrote:
I do not work for arrow, for your information im a IT Contractor.



Why are you on a taxi driver forum if you are an IT contractor?
Unless you are an IT contractor for Arrow cars!

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Arrows T&Cs state they are not liable for any loss caused by them, thats interesting, and they only act as a bookig agent to provide a driver....



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5.The Agent shall not (without limitation) be held liable for any of the following:
a.any losses whatsoever suffered by you and other fellow passengers as a result of the private hire vehicle arriving late at your pick-up point for whatever reason or any traffic jam or any other matters (whether or not beyond the control of the Agent) causing a delay in your arrival at your destination.


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1.You acknowledge that the Agent is merely a booking agent for the Drivers and whose only obligation to you is to arrange private hire vehicle transport for you to and from your destination.

Your contract for payment and transport service is between you and the Driver.


if thats so how can they call themselves arrow private hire?

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These terms & conditions apply to the booking services ("the Services") provided by Shiny Sky Limited, trading as Arrow Licensed Private Hire whose registered office is at 107a New Road Side, Horsforth, Leeds LS18 4QD

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 Post subject: Manchester Update
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:25 pm 
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The hackney trade are rightly panicing at the airport, not least because they are only hearing whats happening from sites like this on the internet. Solicitors have been instructed and same solicitors held a meeting on site today. The trade are discussing a strike, wildcat demos etc. They are looking for a "magic bullet" from the solicitors saying it can all be stopped. No chance.

A request for a meeting with the manager of the councils licensing unit was turned down flat. They say commercial decisions by private companies are nothing to do with them.

It is also alleged that yesterday, wed, 16 new low emission Volvos were plated at the Manchester test station. It is also alleged that reps are canvassing local private hire drivers with a view to signing them up.


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Well nobody can go anywhere if the roads are blocked and as it is claimed the rank is on private land they would need a court order to evict anyone blocking, so if there is 100 cabs working that rank they would need 100 court orders, now the problem if the driver is not in the cab they cannot serve them :wink:


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No what i meant is wether new or 15 years old a purpose built will probally be more expensive to buy and run.But there again your not going to see many 15 year old mondeos working as taxis/ph or are you ?


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Update
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A request for a meeting with the manager of the councils licensing unit was turned down flat. They say commercial decisions by private companies are nothing to do with them.

Which is perfectly correct!!

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It is also alleged that yesterday, wed, 16 new low emission Volvos were plated at the Manchester test station. It is also alleged that reps are canvassing local private hire drivers with a view to signing them up.

Then get the number of the guy canvassing for drivers and call him. He won't know who you are!!

And ask him what the score is, when can you start, what is the weekly rent / settle etc.

Get it from the horse's mouth.

I know our lads would have done that by now, if it was happening here.

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Well nobody can go anywhere if the roads are blocked and as it is claimed the rank is on private land they would need a court order to evict anyone blocking, so if there is 100 cabs working that rank they would need 100 court orders, now the problem if the driver is not in the cab they cannot serve them :wink:

Oh dear, dear, Mr Skippy41!!!

You have landed from Outer Space again mate!!

Airports have byelaws and usually their own police station.

They tried that at Brum Airport, it lasted a few minutes!!

If they had not moved they would have been arrested under terrorist legislation; a very serious charge!!!

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No what i meant is wether new or 15 years old a purpose built will probally be more expensive to buy and run.But there again your not going to see many 15 year old mondeos working as taxis/ph or are you ?


maybe not but yvonne beaumonts ford escort hackney carriage is a V reg (do you know her? blackpool plated)

thats 99 or 2000 reg and just plated again

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And ? Your point being ? As i said a hell of a lot cheaper to run than purpose built..


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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Well nobody can go anywhere if the roads are blocked and as it is claimed the rank is on private land they would need a court order to evict anyone blocking, so if there is 100 cabs working that rank they would need 100 court orders, now the problem if the driver is not in the cab they cannot serve them :wink:

Oh dear, dear, Mr Skippy41!!!

You have landed from Outer Space again mate!!

Airports have byelaws and usually their own police station.

They tried that at Brum Airport, it lasted a few minutes!!

If they had not moved they would have been arrested under terrorist legislation; a very serious charge!!!


If they block ringway road and Wilmslow rd they are on public land :wink:


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skippy41 wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Well nobody can go anywhere if the roads are blocked and as it is claimed the rank is on private land they would need a court order to evict anyone blocking, so if there is 100 cabs working that rank they would need 100 court orders, now the problem if the driver is not in the cab they cannot serve them :wink:

Oh dear, dear, Mr Skippy41!!!

You have landed from Outer Space again mate!!

Airports have byelaws and usually their own police station.

They tried that at Brum Airport, it lasted a few minutes!!

If they had not moved they would have been arrested under terrorist legislation; a very serious charge!!!

If they block ringway road and Wilmslow rd they are on public land :wink:

And they will still get done.

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And ? Your point being ? As i said a hell of a lot cheaper to run than purpose built..


in what respect, or is that why you dont go out of town? no-one forces you to run a vintage motor do they

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Why don't the taxis organise themselves so they can have an equal opportunity with the private hire trade at getting these contracts? Surely the taxis can offer just as good a service as any private hire company can

All things being equal the taxi trade can't compete on price. Level of service has nothing to do with it.


explain please

The level of service can be the same no matter how different the actual running costs are i.e. saying good morning and knowing where you are going shouldn't really cost a bean.

Running costs are different, and as has been outlined the costs of buying and running a TX4 is a lot more than one of Skippy's Skodas.

The chances of return work is also greater with a radio in the motor, rather than an independent taxi. Also larger corporate accounts wont deal with one off drivers.

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