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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:50 pm 
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in what respect, or is that why you dont go out of town? no-one forces you to run a vintage motor do they

As ive said before, i choose if i want to go out of town and i also choose to drive a purpose built vehicle.I could plate a saloon vehicle if i wanted but its not for me.Leave it to you i think :lol:


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you said YOU dont take long runs, is that because the cost of running your vehicle is excessive?

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The reason why all of a sudden private hire companies are taking over at all airports is simple - they are run by millionaire business men who know how to run a business properly , have contacts and capital to do things right where as (in Leeds case anyway) the hackney companies are run by elected taxi drivers on a measly wage on a part time basis and have shareholding fellow taxi drivers watching every move - there's no comparison in reality and the results are inevitable I'm sorry to say - I'm a hackney driver of 15 years and it's been a slow decline since day 1 - I don't blame the ph owners they are only looking after themselves , maybe we need to look at how we do things and stop blaming them. :?:


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If the black cab drivers got their act together and spoke clear english, wore normal clothes and acted reasonably that would be a start in the right direction

If i acted like some of them do be out of a job straight away, i get the impression arrow cars are not only spending 700k on vehicles but no doubt they will be putting a lot if investment in to marketing and mailshots to local businesses, to attract new business.

The black cabs drivers just seem to think they can sit there and do nothing expecting business will just come rolling in.

il be testing arrow out when they start just to see if they are as good as they say they are on their web site.


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STAD wrote:
The reason why all of a sudden private hire companies are taking over at all airports is simple - they are run by millionaire business men who know how to run a business properly , have contacts and capital to do things right where as (in Leeds case anyway) the hackney companies are run by elected taxi drivers on a measly wage on a part time basis and have shareholding fellow taxi drivers watching every move - there's no comparison in reality and the results are inevitable I'm sorry to say - I'm a hackney driver of 15 years and it's been a slow decline since day 1 - I don't blame the ph owners they are only looking after themselves , maybe we need to look at how we do things and stop blaming them. :?:


Lots of truth there.......and will the cab trade take notice?

Not a chance. eusasmiles.zip

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STAD wrote:
The reason why all of a sudden private hire companies are taking over at all airports is simple - they are run by millionaire business men who know how to run a business properly , have contacts and capital to do things right where as (in Leeds case anyway) the hackney companies are run by elected taxi drivers on a measly wage on a part time basis and have shareholding fellow taxi drivers watching every move - there's no comparison in reality and the results are inevitable I'm sorry to say - I'm a hackney driver of 15 years and it's been a slow decline since day 1 - I don't blame the ph owners they are only looking after themselves , maybe we need to look at how we do things and stop blaming them. :?:

Lots of truth there.......and will the cab trade take notice?

Not a chance. eusasmiles.zip

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"I'm self-employed; no one tells me what to do!!"

Except when there is no one left to tell you what to do you have nothing left and no one will tell you what to do!!

Simples!!!

Except you no longer are self-employed, because you don't have any punters left, because you've f*cked them all off!!

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The black cabs drivers just seem to think they can sit there and do nothing expecting business will just come rolling in.



That is the first time that I agree with you.

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cwright wrote:
If the black cab drivers got their act together and spoke clear english, wore normal clothes and acted reasonably that would be a start in the right direction

If i acted like some of them do be out of a job straight away, i get the impression arrow cars are not only spending 700k on vehicles but no doubt they will be putting a lot if investment in to marketing and mailshots to local businesses, to attract new business.

The black cabs drivers just seem to think they can sit there and do nothing expecting business will just come rolling in.

il be testing arrow out when they start just to see if they are as good as they say they are on their web site.



They won't get many fares if they keep hiking the prices up like they are doing, they increased the fare from East Midlands to my gaff by £8 each way.

Work it out for yourself here https://ebook.autocab.net/arrow2/index.php

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Out of a fare of say £30, how much does the driver have to give to Arrow, based on a previous post where it states that the customer pays the driver and that Arrow are just the booking agent?

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The hackney trade are rightly panicing at the airport, not least because they are only hearing whats happening from sites like this on the internet. Solicitors have been instructed and same solicitors held a meeting on site today. The trade are discussing a strike, wildcat demos etc. They are looking for a "magic bullet" from the solicitors saying it can all be stopped. No chance.

A request for a meeting with the manager of the councils licensing unit was turned down flat. They say commercial decisions by private companies are nothing to do with them.

It is also alleged that yesterday, wed, 16 new low emission Volvos were plated at the Manchester test station. It is also alleged that reps are canvassing local private hire drivers with a view to signing them up.

How much, if anything, do the Hackney drivers pay to work at Manchester Airport?

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Out of a fare of say £30, how much does the driver have to give to Arrow, based on a previous post where it states that the customer pays the driver and that Arrow are just the booking agent?


They are rental drivers I think, I'll find out later today we've got a guy working for us who used to work for Arrow.

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look, punters mainly fly once, maybe twice a year, 90% pickup a phone weeks in advance and price up thier door-door service (be it HC or PH - they dont care which)

to the ones like Cwright, who wish to get the benefits of making the above efforts without MAKING the above efforts i say one thing

TOUGH

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The answer to the question for this topic...''have hc's lost manchester airport''.....is simple
No...
Arrow are the fourth (4th) such company that has tried to operate from manchester airport and like others it will FAIL.....
There is no way maplc can remove hackney drivers from the airport...since the airport is owned by manchester city council (55%)...and other councils in greater manchester and it would become a political matter which would end up at the prime ministers office. It is manchester council that licences the hackneys as well as ph like Arrow cars.....
Most people arriving at the airport know how they are being transported from the airport...its either...ph pre-booked....trains...buses...private car pick-ups...or private cars parked at the airport....and finally H/Cs.....yes we are the last resort as less than 10% of passengers use us......
At the moment the average waiting time for a ''job'' is 3 hours....so arrow are welcome to join us....
and I predict that in 18 months time we will still be at the airport but i cannot say the same about them !


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and as Cwright (IT Consultant) is probably S/Employed or a PAYE high earner the taxman will be paying the bill on production of reciept......

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grandad wrote:
Out of a fare of say £30, how much does the driver have to give to Arrow, based on a previous post where it states that the customer pays the driver and that Arrow are just the booking agent?


I can say from LBA to Leeds it's about £23 with Arrow (as on the e-book)

Driver gets about £13/14, then a pound taken off to go to Mr Richmond as all airport jobs are essentially account jobs on the autocab system (Paid by card). Rest goes to Mr Richmond


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