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So, we don't have to abide by the rule of law then.

That's some statement.

I guess we can close down the International Court of Justice in the Hague then. No longer needed. We just blow scumbags away.

In fact, why don't we just roll on back to the Wild West. We all carry a sixpiece and dispense our own justice.

Did you deliberately set out to become a computer virus?

I've no problem with what was done if it's true.

Ask the people who have lost loved ones who were just going to work if they are happy to just take Obama's word for it.

Talk's cheap. Where's the evidence - Davey Jones locker?
It's almost as if the yanks wanted to start a conspiracy theory.

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Pots & kettles

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So, you're happy that those who pretend to live by the Law, simply don't when it suits thyem?

That what you're saying?

Really?

Jim, you need to relax.

Get your fat erse down to Starbucks and order a "Bin Latte"

It's a Middle eastern blend, dark bodied, frothy head, with two shots in it!

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What would your alternative have been?
An extradition request?
Wait for him to have a fit of remorse and hand himself in?

Realistically, how else was he ever going to get caught, within the rules of international law?

This was a self confessed mass murderer. It's hardly as if his guilt was in question.
In this case, I have no problem with what was done.
I just want to be sure it was done.

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Which I'd agree pretty much sums it up gusmac.

However, I disagree slightly with your view about releasing evidence to prove his death. Your previous post said:



A guy called Bruce Wallace, who is one of those who represents families that lost someone in "911", spoke today with great dignity and said that Bin Laden's death should not be allowed to be used by a few lunatics to recruit more gullible young fools.

He felt that showing pictures of the body could be used by some to do this and somewhat amazingly, amongst several interesting points, also made this one (I paraphrase slightly):

"It is unnecessary (to show pictures). If Bin Laden is alive, let him declare himself to be so. Unless this happens, which it wont, I'm happy to take the President's word.
We now need to move forward and work together. Bin Laden did not represent decent muslims, in the same way that Timothy McVeigh could not be suggested to be representative of Christianity"

Personally, I don't think that I could ever be so forgiving, but I "take my hat off" to those like Mr Wallace who can remain so dignified.

In fact, if I were Mr Wallace...when I heard American representatives saying things like "Bin Laden will never walk this Earth again"...well, I wouldn't care if that really meant they were keeping him (just about) alive somewhere very secure, but had amputated his arms and legs, poked his eyes out and pulled out his tongue!

On reflection, thank goodness for the standpoint taken by dignified people like Mr Wallace, who totally agree that Bin Laden's death was right (including how it took place), but who now simply want to move forward. I think most sensible people would be happy to settle for Mr Wallace's view. Whether jasbar will do so...hmmm!

I personally don't doubt the sincerity of Mr Wallace's view, and I'm sure many support it.

I have a problem with taking the word of the US President and the US establishment.
The US over the years have protected and aided some of the vilest murderers and scumbags to walk this Earth when it was expedient to do so. (e.g. Pinochet, Saddam, The Taliban/Mujahideen, Noriega and not forgetting half of the Third Reich).

Bin Laden was the darling of the US when he was fighting soviets in Afghanistan. The US didn't give a stuff about his beliefs then.
I seriously doubt the US ever wants the truth of their full relationship to be trotted out in a court of law.

Equally, if a picture of his bullet ridden corpse would attract new followers, what would weeks of televised coverage of his trial have done for recruitment?

As you also allude to, he could be very much alive and be yeilding far more information in the coming years than his computers ever will.

The US had several good reasons to make sure this guy never got his day in court.
One thing is for sure - we will never know the truth of it all.

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Indeed...several good reasons...and possibly as you indicated, with some of the reasons perhaps not being as "honourable" as made out.

As you also say, we may never know the whole truth, but however they removed Bin Laden from the equation, I don't think too many people will be that upset at his demise.

No chances where taken when shooting Binnie bhoy, word is he had a letter bomb addressed to Neil Lennon strapped in his pants
Which being a Celtic fan myself i find absolutly shocking, i never thought for one minute Bin Laden was a HUN

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Bin Laden killing left 'uncomfortable feeling' – Rowan Williams
Archbishop of Canterbury breaks his silence over the killing of al-Qaida leader saying justice must be seen to be done
The archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, said the killing of Osama bin Laden had left a 'very uncomfortable feeling'.

The archbishop of Canterbury has said the killing of Osama bin Laden left a "very uncomfortable feeling" because it appeared as if justice had not been done.
Bin Laden was shot dead in his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, on Sunday. It has since emerged that he was unarmed when US Navy Seals fired at him.
Lambeth Palace had previously refused to comment on the death of Bin Laden but, when asked at a press conference what he thought of the killing, Dr Rowan Williams replied: "I think the killing of an unarmed man is always going to leave a very uncomfortable feeling; it doesn't look as if justice is seen to be done.
"I don't know the full details any more than anyone else. I think it's also true that different versions of events have not done a great deal to help.
"In such circumstances, when we are faced with someone who was manifestly a war criminal in terms of the atrocities inflicted, it is important that justice is seen to be done."
Earlier in the week, the archbishop of York gave a measured response to the dramatic events in Pakistan, saying people should not celebrate Bin Laden's death and that the terror chief was "evil but not Satan".

This man got it right!

I think you're right.

CC

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Paddy Ashdown said:

"I can't rejoice in the killing of any man, any man ..."

"I belong to a country which is founded on the principle of the exercise of due process of law. I'm dedicated to that.

I have to say that it is not a good enough excuse to say that we will not follow due process because it is too difficult. To take that position is to undermine the very principle on which this country stands, and to which I am dedicated.

And if you allow someone to be executed because the due process of law is too difficult to follow, you take a very dangerous step in exactly the wrong direction."

"The law is difficult, but it is the law and we should be following it."

Irrespective of what you think about America and its foreign policy around the world. The minute they abandoned the due process of Law. They became no better than Bin laden or Al Queada. Justice, was not seen to be done. This was a bad move. I think any enemy of America, and the west will take great delight in knowing their adversaries have lost the moral high ground on which to fight. I can't help but get the feeling this has now become a battle of equals.