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I agree, what strikes me is if they made it a black op.....no publicity they would have had the same result and no real comebacks.

Everything they seem to have stated since the execution seems to have blew up in their faces.

CC

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His picture should not be allowed to be shown lest it is a rallying cry for new recruits?

Dearie me?

There are some who seem to think this is the end. It's only the beginning.

In 100 years when the twin towers are forgotten, Bin Laden's writings may be perceived as teachings. he may just become as famous as the "terrorist" put down by Pontius Pilate.

You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea. And martyrdom (sickening isn't it?) is akin to immortality in such circles.

Remember Bin Laden was created by US foreign policy.

Saddam Hussein was created by US foreign policy.

US foreign policy even turned a blind eye to Hitler.

This has happened countless times. And it will happen many times more. These bampots will be created as long as the US' foreign policy continues to be unethical.

And each time, these bampots will spawn recruits to the cause like flies on sh*te.

You don't want the result, then deal with the cause. The real cause.

But, by abandoning any pretence at due process, we have just shown ourselves to be no better than the scum. And the scum will sense this, and draw strength from it, and build on it.

This action will no doubt increase the risk of terrorism, reprisals and more carnage.

I may not have all the answers, but this sure as hell wasn't on of them.

Perhaps the US should have heeded the lesson of the first failed attempt on the twin towers. Perhaps speaking to the enemy then might have avoided the carnage.

But Bush's wild west approach wouldn't allow it.

Finally, why no word from the UN? Another failure on their part? Is the UN just a League of Nations mark II?

You're right. I think they have f*cked it up big time. It might take a while for Al Queada to re-balance, but you can bet they will come back even stronger. It was only the Law that separated us from them, and now that claim can no longer be made. The murder of Osama Bin Laden will be seen as the day the west gave up the moral high ground and the rule of law to their enemy. I really think it's that serious. A key point in history one might claim, but only time will tell. And that usually means a lot of people will have to die as a consequence.

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"


— Martin Luther King Jr

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And no much needed boost to Obama's popularity

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Unlike Skull, the martyr to the cause of due process in CEC's quasi-judicial licensing committee?



Unlike Jasbar the diplomat?

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"Due process", was very much on the council's agenda, but they use it as a weapon to beat people down. Unfortunately “due process” doesn't mean Truth or Justice or the inalienable right to a fair hearing. It simply means the Law. The clue is in the wording “Justice must be seen to be done” but that doesn't mean it is. It would have been no different for Osama Bin Laden but the masses would have accepted that justice was, in fact, done. The moral high ground would not have been given up to Al Queada.

For me, it was a question of dignity. I know how corrupt these individuals are and how they wouldn't hesitate to abuse the process to beat people down. I may have lost my licence but the trade lost its dignity. Truth be told, I don't think the trade has any dignity. For me at least, kissing councillors on the a*se was too high a price to pay, but my dignity remains intact.

The Council and the Cab Inspector were trying to coerce me into becoming a witness against myself to justify their process. The fact is, under the circumstances, there was no point in turning up. It wouldn't have changed a thing.





Btw, Jasbar wanted me to appear before the council hearing.

In fairness to Edinburgh Council.....they didn't actually shoot Garry

CC

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The scary thing is, when you abandon the rule of law to take out an opponent. Where does it stop? Bin Laden may have been a terrorist but to many, he was a freedom fighter. Now the Americans have turned Bin Laden into a martyr and by abandoning due process. They've turned themselves into terrorists.

If Al queada wanted to drag the Americans down to their level, they've managed it without even trying.

But, with no trade representation available to me, I DID speak to the enemy. Twice. And in numerous correspondences. I spoke with MSP Ga vin Brown. MP Nigel Griffiths. And attempted to speak to Cllr Norma Hart.

A;; of whom are supposed to be charged with representing me.

They didn't.

So where does diplomacy fit in when it is ignored?

Diplomacy is only valid when you are representing others. My opposition is predicated on enmity and my despising a system that is designed to do you down.

Hence I have never professed to be a diplomat. I set out from the outset to conduct the campaign prepeared to use whatever means I have at my disposal. I will continue to do so.

And I will continue to do it with my identity known. To articulate the argument ntil justice and common sense prevails.

That is my right.

I agree. It's no use spouting about the rule of law and telling the world they are righteous, when they ignore the very law they are trying to defend, and as Jasbar pointed out, are now trying to make political capital out of it.

As I said earlier, if they wanted the guy dead, then I could agree with that......but why the publicity and subsequent lies?

They could have carried out the same operation and denied everything.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

It's almost like they are thumbing their noses at Islam and the jihadist movement and saying”bring it on”

Welcome to the American psyche.

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I forget the fact that the american nation are basically ignorant

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

But Bin Laden (no relation ) would have been a martyr anyway. Indeed, imagine a war crimes tribunal or whatever and subsequent execution. Might have been a worse scenario then what's happened, which is perhaps why he was taken out as he was.

Personally I won't lose sleep over the due process aspect. It was a quasi-war scenario. Live by the sword....

And taking prisoners in such a scenario isn't easy either, and it's easy with hindsight to say he wasn't armed or was otherwise unable to wreak carnage if he hadn't been summarily despatched.

Different for the soldiers who actually undertook the mission and had to make split second decisions.