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jock1

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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:31 am

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Private Reggie wrote:

Common Law has a certain amount of legal standing when it comes to Copyright, designs and Trade Marks!!!

I'm asking this question :?:

Does the allocation of licences from the IPL not have some form of protection from Common Law

It's Common law that if you queue and are first in that queue then you as first will be dealt with first

If not then why do we accept queing?

Is the council within their rights to appeal the ruling that the live appers are queue jumpers, and feel as the regulator they acted fairly and without discrimination using common knowledge that all applicants knew there was a list?

This is just a question that i don't know the answer to but it seems fair to assume Common Law has some standing in this case

My lord red cab man dont you realise how stupid this post makes you seem, Get your self a copy Blacks law directory this is used by the crown for reference it might help stem the flow of urine you spout

ps As for common law jurisdiction this is the method of challenge I would use to fight for a plate not this statute law the crown would like us all to use thay are just ACTS .

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Jinky

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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:25 am

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dug wrote:

I take it your one of the 27 then Jinky..starting to sound like the skull it doesn't suit you..better sticking to being a whinger :roll:

Nae wonder Reggie, it is preferable for you to research and do your homework first before posting, nothing against you personally as you are voicing your opinion...

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ALI T

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:18 am

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Location: edinburgh

Private Reggie wrote:

Skull wrote:

Dougie, the council went straight to those on the IPL, granted their licenses, meeting the recommended demand, without considering the other applicants. As I understand it, they are being forced to grant to those they failed to consider. Now according to Sheriff Nobles ruling the council doesn't have to grant in sequential order of application, but they do have to consider all licenses equally that come before the committee.

Dougie, I think you've gotten off lightly. Keep in mind the fact, that not everyone had an opportunity to apply in the first place. :-|

Oh and Dougie, I think Sheriff Noble is talking shi* but, unless it goes to appeal, we will never find out. :-|

I think the council as you accepted previously will not go to appeal, just sit back and take on what comes next, their argument is that they have already issued the original 30 plates and won't issue anymore without a SUD, they will though reform the way they allocate.

Our Trade reps have to encourage this action to protect the integrity of SUDs

dougie the courts have the final say not the council :roll:

are you feechin mad :roll:

are you even paying attention :shock:

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MR T

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:16 pm

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Just have a lottery.... put everyone's name in a hat.... they would all have exactly the same chance.... so nobody could take the council to court....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

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Dusty Bin

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:00 pm

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MR T wrote:

Just have a lottery.... put everyone's name in a hat.... they would all have exactly the same chance.... so nobody could take the council to court....

Thought you didn't like carpetbaggers?

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MR T

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:06 pm

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Dusty Bin wrote:

MR T wrote:

Just have a lottery.... put everyone's name in a hat.... they would all have exactly the same chance.... so nobody could take the council to court....

Thought you didn't like carpetbaggers?

Never had a problem with plates being issued....... just have a problem with oversupply.... :wink:

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Dusty Bin

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:04 pm

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Ah, so you don't mind carpetbaggers then.

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ALI T

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:16 am

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Location: edinburgh

MR T wrote:

Dusty Bin wrote:

MR T wrote:

Just have a lottery.... put everyone's name in a hat.... they would all have exactly the same chance.... so nobody could take the council to court....

Thought you didn't like carpetbaggers?

Never had a problem with plates being issued....... just have a problem with oversupply.... :wink:

and don't we just know why :wink:

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MR T

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:46 am

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Dusty Bin wrote:

Ah, so you don't mind carpetbaggers then.

Define carpetbagger.... is it.... someone that applies for a licence.. gets it.. sells it... and applies for two more... :roll:

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ALI T

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:44 am

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or someone who has never driven a taxi but somehow gets an income from them

oh no..........thats a taxi baron

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ALI T

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:45 am

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MR T wrote:

Dusty Bin wrote:

Ah, so you don't mind carpetbaggers then.

Define carpetbagger.... is it.... someone that applies for a licence.. gets it.. sells it... and applies for two more... :roll:

and sells them and applies for 4 more :lol:

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Dusty Bin

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:52 am

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MR T wrote:

Dusty Bin wrote:

Ah, so you don't mind carpetbaggers then.

Define carpetbagger.... is it.... someone that applies for a licence.. gets it.. sells it... and applies for two more... :roll:

But clearly the biggest carpetbagger would be an ordinary member of the public who applies and is successful while a working driver of many years standing loses out.

That's what your 'lottery' could entail, indeed if these things were better known about then thousands would be applying for each plate and the drivers would have no chance.

Perhaps councils should just pick names from the electoral roll and hand them a plate? :roll:

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MR T

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:58 pm

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Dusty Bin wrote:

MR T wrote:

Dusty Bin wrote:

Ah, so you don't mind carpetbaggers then.

Define carpetbagger.... is it.... someone that applies for a licence.. gets it.. sells it... and applies for two more... :roll:

You still have not explained what a carpetbagger is..... and as for the lottery.... there is nothing to stop a council from putting in place a policy... that policy could be that licences would only be issued to existing drivers that have been in the trade for more than three years... it could include both private hire and hackney.... it could include a number of things as long as they are reasonable..... I repeat define carpetbagger.....

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citievictor

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:13 pm

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpetbagger Plenty o these in the trade!!

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Dusty Bin

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:30 am

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MR T wrote:

You still have not to explained what a carpetbagger is..... and as for the lottery.... there is nothing to stop a council from putting in place a policy... that policy could be that licences would only be issued to existing drivers that have been in the trade for more than three years... it could include both private hire and hackney.... it could include a number of things as long as they are reasonable..... I repeat define carpetbagger.....

There's lots of factors that could be considered, and I gave an extreme example earlier. Another might be mutli-plate holders :lol:

But you've already significantly tightened your definition of a lottery - you orginally said "everyone's name in a hat" - and are thus missing the point I made.

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