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Most of the worst language is auto edited out by the software, so I can't really see how the language can be so bad on here.


must be those voices in my head then :wink:

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god i am bored about reading stuff that has nothing to do with the taxi or private hire trade.
are you gonna have a go at the bus industry next.
who cares if they are running legal or not, would it bother you if the company that delivered corn flakes to your local asda was running legal?


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god i am bored about reading stuff that has nothing to do with the taxi or private hire trade.
are you gonna have a go at the bus industry next.
who cares if they are running legal or not, would it bother you if the company that delivered corn flakes to your local asda was running legal?


We will pursue them as criminals. We will work with all the free people in the world, and they are many, who want someone to bell the cat, and now we are belling the cat, according to the famous saying so as to rid the world of those villains.

After we aborts the invasion that is being carried out by the fire engines and stretched limousines, they will no longer be a threat. Their deterioration will be rapid. I say to those villains who are meeting in the UK, thinking of launching psychological war and brainwashing: wait. Do not be hasty because your disappointment will be huge. You will reap nothing from this aggressive war, which you launched on the licensed trade, except for disgrace and defeat. TDO will continue to exist. Its civilization is years old. It will not be changed by villains like the fire engines and stretched limos.

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would it bother you if the company that delivered corn flakes to your local asda was running legal?


We go to asda and crush them, we will then clean the WHOOOLE place out, we will then have a tasty breakfast, they will be slaughtered.

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god i am bored about reading stuff that has nothing to do with the taxi or private hire trade.
are you gonna have a go at the bus industry next.
who cares if they are running legal or not, would it bother you if the company that delivered corn flakes to your local asda was running legal?

No, but it does bother me that people are driving around without proper insurance.

I wonder if it would bother you if an un-insured vehicle wrote your motor off? :?

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agabbycabbie wrote:
god i am bored about reading stuff that has nothing to do with the taxi or private hire trade.
are you gonna have a go at the bus industry next.
who cares if they are running legal or not, would it bother you if the company that delivered corn flakes to your local asda was running legal?

No, but it does bother me that people are driving around without proper insurance.

I wonder if it would bother you if an un-insured vehicle wrote your motor off? :?


and what proof do you have of them not having proper insurance, and if you have it why dont you just report them to the police or crime stoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111


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and what proof do you have of them not having proper insurance, and if you have it why dont you just report them to the police or crime stoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111

I'm grateful for the number.

Maybe I'm being a bit naive here, but I very much doubt that those who don't wish to be licensed, either by councils or commissioners, really give a flying f*** about things such as insurance. :shock:

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agabbycabbie wrote:
god i am bored about reading stuff that has nothing to do with the taxi or private hire trade.
are you gonna have a go at the bus industry next.
who cares if they are running legal or not, would it bother you if the company that delivered corn flakes to your local asda was running legal?

No, but it does bother me that people are driving around without proper insurance.

I wonder if it would bother you if an un-insured vehicle wrote your motor off? :?


Or five in one year, sussex on this we do agree...penalties for no insurance should be changed.


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I run an executive Chauffeur Services. We operate with company business only, carry NO individuals for leisure purposes and have contracts of hire with all our clients which they have to sign before we begin work for them.

Our LA say they won't licence our vehicle because of the tinted rear windows and won't licence our vehicle unless we display door plates.

A large proportion of our work is from the media, VIPs, leading business heads etc. we would lose 50% of our business instantly if we put plates on and a sizeable proprtion if we lost the tints.

Our insurance covers unlicenced vehicles for hire & reward, we have (like the fire engine man) £5m pl insurance, drivers are CRB checked put through medicals, most are former police advanced drivers.

We attend film sets, media events where the majority of VIPs turn up in plain black mercs, Limos and so on, none licenced. There are dozens of companies operating like this including the "UK's only Chauffeur Franchise" (see the business opps press)

The majority of ph/taxis in our area are battered old toyota/nissan etc. driven by idiots smoking in the car in many cases yet you people seem to suggest that because they are licenced they are safer and superior to us.

Surely an organisation has a right to book whoever they wish to drive not someone forced into stupid regulations by pen pushing civil servants who wouldn't last 2 minutes in a real job.


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The majority of ph/taxis in our area are battered old toyota/nissan etc. driven by idiots smoking in the car in many cases yet you people seem to suggest that because they are licenced they are safer and superior to us.



I'm not sure who said or implied that Mr Confused, but I think the point that a lot of us make is there are some grey areas involving the use of unlicensed vehicles that need to be clarified, particulary in relation to stretch limos and fire engines etc.

I don't doubt that people may well be safer and given better service in an unlicensed stretch limo than in a licensed taxi or PH vehicle, but the point of licensing is to ensure basic requirements are adhered to in such areas, and it's clear that they are not in many respects.

In general terms I don't think that licensing is particularly onerous for anyone who has nothing to hide (but see my post below).

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IThe majority of ph/taxis in our area are battered old toyota/nissan etc. driven by idiots smoking in the car in many cases yet you people seem to suggest that because they are licenced they are safer and superior to us.

Surely an organisation has a right to book whoever they wish to drive not someone forced into stupid regulations by pen pushing civil servants who wouldn't last 2 minutes in a real job.


On the one hand I agree that some aspects of regulatation, like the ones effecting your own firm, are nonsensical, and we've discussed such issues at length before, and I think many agree for the need for national standards, which of course the OFT and Govt didn't think appropriate following the former's report from a couple of years ago, but the cynic in me suggests that this may have been due to Govt priorities in other matters rather than a rejection of the idea of national standards in principle.

It is interesting that, for example, some LAs would have no objection to the tinted windows you describe, and would not require vehicle markings for vehicles classed as executive.

But on the other hand your stance against regulation seems slightly contradictory in that you seem to think that the local taxi and PH trade should raise their game.

Tough regulation, yes, but I would agree with your description of some regulation as stupid.

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Our LA say they won't licence our vehicle because of the tinted rear windows and won't licence our vehicle unless we display door plates.

A lot of councils allow vehicles such as yours to have no markings, saving that of the license plate at the rear. In London they only have the little bits of paper front and back.

I would talk to your licensing committee Chair, and say that you are trying to come in from the cold (so to speak), you want to do licensed work, and ask them to be flexible.

No condition your council has can be set in stone, the Treaty of Rome says no.

However if your council will not see sense, I'm hopeful that the courts will do it for them. :wink:

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Visit this site and see what passes for a Private Hire vehicle in North Kesteven District Council. (Lincolnshire)

yes, It's been plated as a PHV.

I'm looking on the web for a Warrior A.P.C. perfect for saturday nights.


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This bloody thing is licensed by Wealden. :shock:

http://www.classecars.co.uk/fireengine.htm

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I didn't mean to imply that ph/taxi's are sub standard in any way and apologise if that's how it cam across, I simply stated that in my area the majorit, not all, are as described.

I have spoken to the head of the LA licensing, he's not interested unfortunately. clear windows or no licence.


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I didn't mean to imply that ph/taxi's are sub standard in any way and apologise if that's how it cam across, I simply stated that in my area the majorit, not all, are as described.

I don't disagree, and that's down to the LO that wont license you motor. Maybe you should point out the rubbish to him when he is preaching to you.

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